Almost out of the loop about Neuralink's tech. Is it EEG?
Neuralink patient controls games by thinking during interview
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#82It is fascinating. But looking at this guy condition, playing games would be IMHO not the prio. I would hook up the remote controlling to a robotic exoskeleton, for just be back and function normal. I guess that also can be detected ( intention to move feet or hands in any direction ). But let's see, we are really at the beginning.
Better than an exoskeleton is a second implant below his C4/5 to reconnect his spinal chord with his brain via wifi.
They are solving the easiest things first of course
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#83Some clarity for ppl. - Other techniques would likely work for this patient. Eyegaze technology is pretty readily available. He has proximity switches for driving his chair and lets not forget voice control. So.. what does BCIe offer significantly? I think this is the BIG problem BCI has. The gains are not enough for a lot of people compared to what the AT sector can already offer. Please remember this. This guy coul…
Apple has done great stuff with eye tracking on Vision Pro, but it required completely rewriting the UI for literally everything. Not something we have the luxury of doing for accessibility for quadriplegics.
Source: built an eye tracker and eye-controlled UI at a startup and got acquired by Google
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#84From a technical perspective, moving a mouse with your mind isn't entirely new: https://elifesciences.org/articles/18554 Personally, I think the most exciting part of Neuralink and other companies working on BCIs is the fact that they're trying to keep these implants in long-term, and scale the deployment significantly. Most academic BCI research thus far has just been trials, without patients getting to keep the imp…
Moving the mouse wasn't that impressive. That he could turn of the music just like that while the game was open was impressive. And Civ 6 is way more complex to operate compared to chess. I assume that's not mouse driven. Still early days for this tech but it seems impressive.
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#85I haven't followed Neuralink too closely since it was announced, so I was not expecting to see what I just saw. I've seen a handful of breakthrough moments in my life - I think this will be remembered as one.
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#86This makes me very excited! I have Spinal Muscular Atrophy type 2 [1] and I have lost most of my physical capabilities save for 2-3 fingers and of course speech. Although I am now on Nusinersen [2] treatments I am still becoming weaker over time, albeit extremely slowly. It brings me comfort to know that such a fallback will eventually exist, should I need one. Note that specialists are saying that another promising…
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not faked though.. according to your link they tried multiple times and only showed the success video. But the statement that the software drove with no intervention was accurate, and the video was authentic.
The link says that the route was pre-determined, pre-mapped, tried multiple times and crashed once during the trials. By the same logic, this video would not be faked even if in fact it's the same chess move he tried for 2 months and it's the only one working, and also another patient died. Not saying it's the case - clearly not. But yeah, let's be real.
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#88I haven't followed Neuralink too closely since it was announced, so I was not expecting to see what I just saw. I've seen a handful of breakthrough moments in my life - I think this will be remembered as one.
I don't think the device itself is a breakthrough, the issue beforehand was that tissue in the brain tries to heal from the implant, it can be lethal, I don't know what they're doing to have a PERMANENT implant, completely stop that area from "healing" so tht the implant doesn't become a legitimate hazard.
It will be quite a while before we know if they've managed to mitigate the issues enough to last a lifetime (and support upgrades), but it's better than previous devices.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s fair I suppose but it’s probably giving more credit to Musk than he deserves. The real work is all being done by researchers who are drastically more knowledgeable about all of this than he is. He’s wise to invest in these sorts of ideas though and deserves credit for that.
Yeah those researchers would be aimlessly rotting in academia if he didn’t fund risky, out there stuff like this. I can’t name anyone else among his peers who spends their wealth on anything even remotely civilizationally beneficial.
Re: Neuralink patient controls games by thinking during interview
#90I haven't followed Neuralink too closely since it was announced, so I was not expecting to see what I just saw. I've seen a handful of breakthrough moments in my life - I think this will be remembered as one.
[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2020/12/16/brain-...