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YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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AI that is indistinguishable from reality is a certainty for the not-so-distant future. That future will come, and it will come sooner than anyone's expecting. Yet all I see is society trying to prevent the inevitable from installing itself (because it's "scary", "dangerous", "undermines the very pillars of society" etc.), instead of preparing itself for when the inevitable occurs. People seem to have finally accepte…

There are some interesting hardware solutions from camera makers that provide provably authentic metadata and watermarks to videos and images - mostly useful for journalists, but soon consumers will expecting this to be exposed on social media platforms and those they follow on social media. There really are genuinely valuable things happening in this space.

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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They don't bother to mention it, but this is actually to comply with the the new EU AI act. > Providers will also have to ensure that AI-generated content is identifiable. Besides, AI-generated text published with the purpose to inform the public on matters of public interest must be labelled as artificially generated. This also applies to audio and video content constituting deep fakes https://digital-strategy.ec.eu…

Seems like this is sort of a manufactured argument. I mean, should every product everywhere have to cite every regulation it complies with? Your ibuprofen bottle doesn't bother to cite the FDA rules under which it was tested. Your car doesn't list the DOT as the reason it's got ABS brakes. The EU made a rule. YouTube complied. That changes the user experience. They documented it.

Certain goods sold in the EU are required to have CE marking to affirm that they satisfy EU regulations.

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From your comment's tone, it seems like this is supposed to be a bad thing. The only people who would be upset about this are folks who are trying to pass generated content off as real. I'm sorry if I don't have much sympathy for them.

"You have to tell people if you're lying" isn't a stupid rule because lying is good, it's a stupid rule because liars can lie about lying and proving it was the original problem.

The problem is that there wasn't a rule that could be used to take a misleading video down. Now there is.

Finding out a video is maliciously fabricated is a different problem.

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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> Synthetically generating music (including music generated using Creator Music) What about music made with a synthesizer?

Even if it is fully AI-generated, this requirement seems off compared to the other ones. In all of the other cases, it can be deceiving, but what is deceiving in synthetic music? There may be some cases where it is relevant, like when imitating the voice of a famous singer, but other than that, music is not "real", it is work coming from the imagination of its creator. That kind of thing is already dealt with with co…

From a Google/Alphabet perspective it could also be valuable to distinguish between „original“ and „ai generated“ music for the purpose of a cleaner database to train their own music generation models?

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From your comment's tone, it seems like this is supposed to be a bad thing. The only people who would be upset about this are folks who are trying to pass generated content off as real. I'm sorry if I don't have much sympathy for them.

"You have to tell people if you're lying" isn't a stupid rule because lying is good, it's a stupid rule because liars can lie about lying and proving it was the original problem.

Yes. This is a legislative implementation of the Evil Bit.

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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post #77
post #56

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If you manually did enough work have the copyright it is fine. But since AI can't legally have copyright to their music Google probably wants to know for that reason.

It goes without saying that a piece of software can't be a copyright holder. But the person who uses that software certainly can own the copyright to the resulting work.

If someone else uses the same AI generator software and makes the same piece of music should Google go after them for it? I don't think that would hold in court.

Hopefully this means that AI generated music gets skipped by Googles DRM checks.

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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Looks like there is a huge grea area that they need to figure out in practice. From https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/14328491# : Examples of content creators don’t have to disclose: * Someone riding a unicorn through a fantastical world * Green screen used to depict someone floating in space * Color adjustment or lighting filters * Special effects filters, like adding background blur or vintage effects * Pro…

> Synthetically generating music (including music generated using Creator Music) What about music made with a synthesizer?

In one of the examples, they refer to something called "Dream Track"

> Dream Track in Shorts is an experimental song creation tool that allows creators to create a unique 30-second soundtrack with the voices of opted-in artists. It brings together the expertise of Google DeepMind and YouTube’s most innovative researchers with the expertise of our music industry partners, to open up new ways for creators on Shorts to create and engage with artists.

> Once a soundtrack is published, anyone can use the AI-generated soundtrack as-is to remix it into their own Shorts. These AI-generated soundtracks will have a text label indicating that they were created with Dream Track. We’re starting with a limited set of creators in the United States and opted-in artists. Based on the feedback from these experiments, we hope to expand this.

So my impression is they're talking about labeling music which is derived from a real source (like a singer or a band) and might conceivably be mistaken for coming from that source.

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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AI that is indistinguishable from reality is a certainty for the not-so-distant future. That future will come, and it will come sooner than anyone's expecting. Yet all I see is society trying to prevent the inevitable from installing itself (because it's "scary", "dangerous", "undermines the very pillars of society" etc.), instead of preparing itself for when the inevitable occurs. People seem to have finally accepte…

We've been preparing for a while? It's all that work people have been doing for years with asynchronous cryptography, ecc, and tech like what happens during heavy rain downpours and that coin with a bit in front of it.

These are all the proper preparation for AI. AI can't generate a private key given a public key. AI can't generate the appropriate text given a hash.

So we build a society upon these things AI can't do.

It has been a good run. We have done things like the tried and true ink stamping to verify documents. We have a labyrinth of bureaucracy for every little activity, mostly because it is the way that has always worked. It has surely been nice for the "administration" to sit around and sip lemonade in their archaic jobs. It has been nice to have incompetent people with no vision being appointed to high places for being born into the right families connected with the right people. That gravy train was surely a joy for those who were a part of it.

Sadly, it won't work anymore. We will need competent people now that actually care.

We need everything to be authenticated now with digital signatures.

It is not even that difficult a problem to solve. The existing systems are far more complex, far more prone to error, far more expensive, and far more difficult to navigate.

AI is giving us an opportunity to evolve. It is a time for celebration. Society will be faster, more efficient, more secure, and much more fun with generative content. AIs will produce official AI-signed content, and unsigned content. Humans will produce official human signed content, and unsigned content. Some AIs will use humans to sign content to subvert systems. But all of this pales in comparison to the fraud, waste, and total abuse of the current system.

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

#90
Google of yore would have offered a 'not AI' type of filter in their advanced search.

Present day Google is too busy selling AI shovels to quell Wall St's grumbling, to even consider what AI video will to do to the already bad 'needle in a haystack' nature of search.

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