macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

Post by mikiobraun » Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:38 AM UTC

Karupan wrote: post #55

So this will break IDEs and anything that uses the JVM natively on macOS. But if I’m reading the bug report right, should leave dockerized JVM services intact? This is why most enterprise workplace tech teams don’t roll out any OS level updates immediately. Regardless of whether they are on windows or macOS. Also a good idea to disable automatic updates on all devices that you use daily.

Post by Mashimo » Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:40 AM UTC

Post by KingMob » Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:42 AM UTC

devsda wrote: post #27

I have two emails in my work Inbox in this order. One that says don't update mac os to avoid breaking Java. Another that essentially says upgrade macos to latest version within x days else the issue will be escalated. It is going to be quite a hassle for IT teams across companies to deal with this problem.

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Post by user_of_the_wek » Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:43 AM UTC

jsheard wrote: post #74

bzzzt wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strange. I've got the complete opposite experience. Most displays work fine. It helps if you stick with models that advertise at least a bit of macOS support (like some Dells or Samsungs). Docker sucks, but there's Orbstack. I don't care for posix, but most of my *nix tools are available in Homebrew. Network is steady and more bulletproof than wireless on Linux. Is your experience based on a recent mac?

The problem with third party displays on the Mac is the system has some deeply held assumptions that all monitors are as pixel-dense as the ones which Apple ships with their machines. 100% DPI scaling for classic ~100ppi monitors is a poor experience since macOS no longer supports subpixel font rendering, and DPI scales higher than 100% but less than 200% are really just 200% in a trenchcoat because the system render…

Post by TheOtherHobbes » Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 9:52 AM UTC

piyush_soni wrote: post #63

baq wrote: post #28

Been saying this for as long as I’ve been using macOS: it is not a developer friendly OS and am close to the conclusion that this reputation is a psy-op. Yeah it’s pretty, it mostly works when the box is first turned on and the hardware is unmatched but macOS itself is actually subpar. QA seems second tier, things you’d except from other OSes like, I don’t know, using a third party second display are just bad experie…

Completely agree. Have been using a MBP for almost three years now at work (after using Windows machines for a couple of decades), and I can see how laughable many of the design decisions in macOS are (though I highly doubt they were deliberate 'decisions' at all), and I still fail to understand why people use them over Windows or Linux (sure, great hardware, mostly). It's probably fine as a consumer device, but for…