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Re: DBeaver – open-source database client

#81
I mainly use Postico but I’ve noticed coworkers using DBeaver. I like how the tabs are named whereas in Postico I have to leave comments at the top of the query for later. I had to use DBeaver to access a non-Postgres database. I may end up trying it out as my primary tool for a bit.

Re: DBeaver – open-source database client

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post #59

I know probably 95% of HN will see it as a downside but one of my favorite things about DBeaver is that because it is implemented on Eclipse you can install nearly any Eclipse plugin and they work. So I installed Vrapper to edit in Vi-mode, some git tools I like, PlantUML, etc. Really makes it a step above other tools in terms of the power and flexibility you can have with it. Apart from that, you can install it insi…

Why start your comment by saying "I know probably 95% of HN will see it as a downside but"? And this is irrespective of whether that 95% is right or not. Google "father son and donkey story". And re: that 95%: See normal distribution aka bell curve. And echo chamber and hive mind. All of the above imply the same main point, just in different ways.

Sort of like defence against possible downvoters.

If OP went along the "father, son, and donkey story," then the OP won't have posted it at all.

Re: DBeaver – open-source database client

#83
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it absolutely baffling how often the prettiness of UI comes up as a HN comment. If you asked me objectively "do you think it's pretty?" I'd probably say no, but never once has this even occurred me when using it since I'm usually just trying to get work done, which I find it very useful for. It's a productivity tool, not an art piece I'm hanging on my wall.

I think it's less about aesthetics and more about cognitive load. Nonstandard UIs aren't end of the world, but if possible I don't want the extra cognitive load of interacting with 5, 6, 7, whatever slightly different GUI paradigms. Like most developers I'm using multiple applications at once. Typically I'm using a terminal, text editor, browser, Slack, email, and maybe a database GUI. A developer's cognition and cog…

To be honest i find dbeaver well designed. Even though the interface is cluttered with a ton of functionalities, it has everything I need where I expect it to be! I don't recall googling "who to do X with dbeaver ?".

Re: DBeaver – open-source database client

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's less about aesthetics and more about cognitive load. Nonstandard UIs aren't end of the world, but if possible I don't want the extra cognitive load of interacting with 5, 6, 7, whatever slightly different GUI paradigms. Like most developers I'm using multiple applications at once. Typically I'm using a terminal, text editor, browser, Slack, email, and maybe a database GUI. A developer's cognition and cog…

To be honest i find dbeaver well designed. Even though the interface is cluttered with a ton of functionalities, it has everything I need where I expect it to be! I don't recall googling "who to do X with dbeaver ?".

Counterpoint, I love DBeaver and have used it frequently. Did go through a scare with the schema viewer though where I thought that I had somehow deleted the entire table schema, after doing a backup of course. But it took some googling to find out that I had not committed the changes to the database, and also that there was an option to "lock" interactions with the database to prevent the kind of scare I had. So as an novice/intermediate SQL user, the clunky interface can be a detriment.

Re: DBeaver – open-source database client

#85
post #59

I know probably 95% of HN will see it as a downside but one of my favorite things about DBeaver is that because it is implemented on Eclipse you can install nearly any Eclipse plugin and they work. So I installed Vrapper to edit in Vi-mode, some git tools I like, PlantUML, etc. Really makes it a step above other tools in terms of the power and flexibility you can have with it. Apart from that, you can install it insi…

> one of my favorite things about DBeaver is that because it is implemented on Eclipse you can install nearly any Eclipse plugin and they work

I like DataGrip for a very similar reason, relative to IDEA plugins.

Re: DBeaver – open-source database client

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The default DB tool where I work is Heidi and I switched to DBeaver because I found Heidi to be horrendously unstable. Dozens of random exceptions on a daily basis, and because it’s single-threaded a long-running query will just lock up the entire UI to the point where it triggers the “this program is not responding” dialog on Windows. A free and open source DB management tool is still an impressive feat, but I absol…

>"I found Heidi to be horrendously unstable." As already said DB admin tools are not my daily driver. I either did not use Heidi intensively enough to uncover all the problems you mentioned or they've fixed those.

No Heidi is pretty unstable compared to what it used to be. I get 2 or 3 exceptions that require me to restart daily, the good thing is that the exceptions are caught, and you can copy out any SQL you have been working on which means you rarely loose work.

I still prefer it as it is fast and has a nice UI and if they can sort the crashes, I would be a convert.

Re: DBeaver – open-source database client

#87
DBeaver is great, but it's so heavy/clunky on OSX. Also, 99% of the time I want 1. tables+data 2. data structure+index of table 3. search 4. sql query

DBeaver aims to be a full admin system and simply getting to the data makes me drill 3-4 levels deep in a tree and it's quite annoying that only adds to the "clunky-ness".

Re: DBeaver – open-source database client

#88
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I don’t know why it matters to me, but I’ve always been put off by it being ugly and using non-native widgets. That may be the only reason I’ve paid for TablePlus. I’d probably be fine with a great TUI interface, too. So it’s really this intermediate UI that irritates me.

I find it absolutely baffling how often the prettiness of UI comes up as a HN comment. If you asked me objectively "do you think it's pretty?" I'd probably say no, but never once has this even occurred me when using it since I'm usually just trying to get work done, which I find it very useful for. It's a productivity tool, not an art piece I'm hanging on my wall.

I have a PowerGrep license. It's UI is so cluttered that I almost always find ways to make due with less capable alternatives.
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