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Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by andrewstuart2 » Tue, Mar 05, 2024, 8:11 PM UTC

Terretta wrote: post #38

dewbrite wrote: post #28

> To ensure result quality, we automatically downrank pages with advertising and tracking, which are often associated with low-quality or machine-generated content. That is one of the most compelling things I've ever heard about a search engine. How well does kagi work for niche "reddit queries" like "best waterproof midi synthesizers reddit"?

It has "lenses" that you can tailor yourself. Just pay and try it. Cancel if it's not your goto in a month.

They have a free trial as well. I didn't even finish half my 100 free search queries before I decided to pay.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by MostlyStable » Tue, Mar 05, 2024, 8:12 PM UTC

xaro wrote: post #41

dewbrite wrote: post #28

> To ensure result quality, we automatically downrank pages with advertising and tracking, which are often associated with low-quality or machine-generated content. That is one of the most compelling things I've ever heard about a search engine. How well does kagi work for niche "reddit queries" like "best waterproof midi synthesizers reddit"?

I configured Reddit as a "Lense" (similar to what Kagi uses for things like searching across Forums, or news). With that, now I have a simple toggle at the top of Kagi which allows me to immediately turn a search into a Reddit search.

oooh, I didn't know I could do this. Doing it now. Thanks!

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by qwertox » Tue, Mar 05, 2024, 8:13 PM UTC

Wolfram Alpha still has the same old bug:

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=2016-04-04+to+2019-01-3... = 2 years 9 months 27 days

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=2019-01-31+to+2016-04-0... = 2 years 9 months 26 days

The duration should be identical but is off by one day.

One day a space mission will fail due to this bug.

Reported several times, they never cared.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by nickpsecurity » Tue, Mar 05, 2024, 8:13 PM UTC

dewbrite wrote: post #28

> To ensure result quality, we automatically downrank pages with advertising and tracking, which are often associated with low-quality or machine-generated content. That is one of the most compelling things I've ever heard about a search engine. How well does kagi work for niche "reddit queries" like "best waterproof midi synthesizers reddit"?

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Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by djha-skin » Tue, Mar 05, 2024, 8:13 PM UTC

> ...We are even thinking of providing a consumeable API for users to add their own widgets to Kagi search results triggered on demand (and shareable with others via an open-source repository[1]).

Neat!

1: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/support-and-community/open-source...

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by ckbishop » Tue, Mar 05, 2024, 8:18 PM UTC

Kagi is well worth the money. Just converted my monthly sub into an annual. It just flat out works better than any other search engine I've come across. Also, the ability to just filter/weight sites that it returns is incredible. I'm not sure how Google is this far behind at search, but here we are.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by MostlyStable » Tue, Mar 05, 2024, 8:23 PM UTC

andai wrote: post #36

Did kagi recently (past 12 months) add the unlimited plan? Last time I checked even my human search usage was way beyond their limits (Google regularly accuses me of being a bot!), and my primary interest was in 100Xing that volume with autonomous agents. Now it says unlimited, but I'm not sure "you and a swarm of a thousand digital clones" counts as fair use...

>regularly accuses me of being a bot!

>swarm of autonomous agents.

So....Google is right?

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by swyx » Tue, Mar 05, 2024, 8:25 PM UTC

TIL that Wolfram Research has 1000 employees. what do they... do? what is Wolfram's revenue? i'm completely out of the loop. This is the size of Automattic - which makes Wordpress. is Wolfram on that scale? idk.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by jjtheblunt » Tue, Mar 05, 2024, 8:27 PM UTC

dawnerd wrote: post #80

andrelaszlo wrote: post #22

I love using WA as a calculator since it's so good at handling units. Silly example: I just tried "average distance to moon/Eiffel Tower height" in Kagi and got "= about 1.167 million" (powered by WA).

I just tried some time math and it got it wrong 3:38 - 0:10 = 8 hours and 32 minutes I'm guessing it was trying to convert it to times of day instead of 3 minutes 38 seconds. Interestingly if I click the quick answer button it gives 3:48 as a result. Google - doesn't even try. WA directly also had to nudge it to use it as a unit instead of a time of day. Still some work to do here it seems!

> got it wrong

But your query was ambiguous as written.

8 hours and 32 minutes is how long it takes to go from 3:38 pm to 10 after midnight? Perhaps the am/pm thing is also underspecified, so it chooses the shorter time delta?

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by sharkjacobs » Tue, Mar 05, 2024, 8:28 PM UTC

ckbishop wrote: post #86

Kagi is well worth the money. Just converted my monthly sub into an annual. It just flat out works better than any other search engine I've come across. Also, the ability to just filter/weight sites that it returns is incredible. I'm not sure how Google is this far behind at search, but here we are.

This is trite, but the simplest answer is that Kagi's product is search and its customers are users, and Google's product is ad impressions and its customers are advertisers.