AI will cure cancer if it didn’t already just as much AI will help continue prevent the awareness of such cures.
"AI will cure cancer" misunderstands both AI and medicine
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#82This article seems to avoid talking about the core improvement AI will make to radiology - more accurate analysis. It mentions that patients may not get an MRI in the first place...but at least for those who do, surely there will be an improvement. The referral/bias issue will exist no matter what the technology is used. garbage article.
That not curing cancer. It's just an improved component of our existing mechanism which cannot cure everyone even if it could reach them all.
I didn't say anything about curing cancer
Re: "AI will cure cancer" misunderstands both AI and medicine
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is even more fun aspect. 'Survival' for cancer tends to be defined as surviving 5 years. The earlier you catch, the more patient had left to live anyway.
Probably hyperbole but a colleague told me about a 80/20 distribution, that a decreasing amounts are spent on substantial life extension or quality of life improvement in the west as the pop ages. The basic good old medical care invented 100 years ago, while dizzying amounts are spent on prolonging lives for very, very few years, often very late in life - efforts that are very close to - in effect to have done nothin…
Spending on Medicare beneficiaries in their last year of life accounts for about 25% of total Medicare spending on beneficiaries age 65 or older.
So yes, it's true (although that includes the cost of hospital stays which is where a lot of people end their life).
Re: "AI will cure cancer" misunderstands both AI and medicine
#84i am puzzled why people think there is true intelligence in AI. IMHO it is advanced interpolation or morphing similar to the photo morphing tools of the 90s. if the data is not in the model you can’t get it out. you can only get interpolations out of it of data in the model. the more sophisticated the interpolation the more people think there is intelligence. maybe i am missing something but this is what i perceive.
And true intelligence can get data they don't have ? true intelligence isn't magic.
humans have imagination and creativity and other qualities …
Re: "AI will cure cancer" misunderstands both AI and medicine
#85I dislike these articles that end up being written with a leftist bias that AI is already being used to [purposely] control and marginalize people. There are definite inequalities in society including in medicine and these biases I am sure make it into training data. However, while we should be watchful, I don't think there is a conscious decision by "the man" to purposely put certain groups down using AI. AI researc…
Why is facts about how these systems hurt people leftist?
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are also downstream consequences of ordering tests aside from cost; not all tests are harmless. As an example, regular screening for prostate cancer isn't recommended as much. Partially because it is often so slow-growing that people often die of other causes before the cancer even begins to cancer, and because the definitive test is a biopsy which is somewhat invasive. Rates of complications are relatively low…
Sure, of course you would make practical decisions about what kinds of tests to administer, and not proactively administer the tests that have significant negative side effects. For the other point, personally I don’t really buy the argument of “it’s better not to know you have cancer X, because it might end up being low impact.” If we had excellent regular screening, yes detection of low impact cancers would become…
The path to being able to say "low impact, don't worry" will be quite rocky and possibly involve a lot of painful treatment for patients. If you have a very different detection surface, you would not initially know what is all low impact, for example.
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#87Such a bloated, meandering, poor written article. Just get to the point. Gave up halfway through and author still hadn't addressed the title.
Re: "AI will cure cancer" misunderstands both AI and medicine
#88Saying you'll cure cancer with AI without specifying the type of cancer is like declaring you'll solve crime with Batman. Way too broad to be useful, but makes a good headline.
I kind of feel like that's exactly why AI is helpful here: - Grab a cancer (or virus, bacteria, etc.) - Sequence it - AI will develop a custom therapy for that cancer In broad strokes, it's not hard to develop a therapy for any specific cancer or other disease in a specific individual. There are several broad strategies: - A targeted, custom phage to kill a bacteria (or extrapolate to killing a type of cells) - A cus…
It sounds so easy maybe you could be so kind and write a few lines of codes and finally cure cancer