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Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by BodyCulture »

mavamaarten wrote: post #30
bovem wrote: post #8

The UI looks great. Couldn't find any info about self hosting but I did find a feature request in GitHub Issues [1]. I guess I'll stick with Immich [2] for now. Edit: Found a Reddit AMA [3] from the CEO and I'm happy to know that self hosting is a goal in the long run. [1] https://github.com/ente-io/ente/issues/141 [2] https://immich.app/ [3] https://old.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/116fx9v/ama_im_vi...

I'm really happy with immich. It's amazing how well everything works and how feature-complete it is given how relatively young the project is and fast-moving development is going. I self-host an instance and do a nightly backup with duplicati to cloud storage. The only downside for me is that there's a new release almost every couple of days, with a message that the backend is out of date. Which is both a pro and a c…

Manual action is needed for an update? Why not let the computer do this instead?

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by vishnumohandas »

kosolam wrote: post #72
vishnumohandas wrote: post #32

Hey, Ente's CEO here. We had opensourced our server[1] yesterday, which is perhaps why we are on the front page. Stoked to be here Ente had launched on HN[2] a while ago and has been sustainably growing since. We took the feedback from our Show HN seriously and have since - undergone a cryptography audit [3] - published our replication strategy [4] - added requested features (family plans, collaborative albums and li…

Do you provide an easy migration from google photos with full quality? The instructions in the FAQ are a bit vague. Last time I heard about this, Google takeout won’t let you download the full quality images.

Google Takeout downloads the images in full quality.

But it splits your metadata (like capture time, geo coordinates) and places them in a separate sidecar file.

This isn't an issue if you're migrating to Ente because during import the desktop app[1] will merge the metadata with their respective files.

If it's for you to keep a local copy, you will unfortunately need to write some scripts. There's in fact a paid product[2] that does just this.

[1]: https://ente.io/download/desktop

[2]: https://metadatafixer.com/

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by dabeeeenster »

therealmarv wrote: post #77

Ente Auth https://auth.ente.io/ was my go to choice for migrating from Authy. It supports importing and exporting (so no dead end unlike Authy) and I can see the second factor on my desktop without reaching my phone (through Ente Auth website). I've exported from a rooted phone from Authy->Aegis->Ente Auth. I have no need for their main product but they are building amazing software!

oooh this is interesting - I'd like to self host this...

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by hruzgar »

kosolam wrote: post #72
vishnumohandas wrote: post #32

Hey, Ente's CEO here. We had opensourced our server[1] yesterday, which is perhaps why we are on the front page. Stoked to be here Ente had launched on HN[2] a while ago and has been sustainably growing since. We took the feedback from our Show HN seriously and have since - undergone a cryptography audit [3] - published our replication strategy [4] - added requested features (family plans, collaborative albums and li…

Do you provide an easy migration from google photos with full quality? The instructions in the FAQ are a bit vague. Last time I heard about this, Google takeout won’t let you download the full quality images.

no, takeout gives you the full quality. All other ways of accessing your photos from the api (there is some github projects) don't give you the full quality images though.

But with takeout the problem is that all dates and metadata gets messed up. I had to learn this the hard way. There is some tools that somehow correct the dates. But it's not perfect and I wouldn't really want my photos to be locked up like that. What if google decides to discontinue Google Takeout? Or just give you lower quality pictures after some point? You really are not safe.

Since that experience I moved to onedrive temporarily because it's a bit safer solution for now until all of these new services get stable (immich, ente, etc). Onedrive let's you access you photos like normal Onedrive files so that's really good. I know microsoft will have my data now and sync is also not perfect. So it's definitely not perfect. But I had to move to something else before the better solutions emerge.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by darkwater »

ikari_pl wrote: post #79
mavamaarten wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really happy with immich. It's amazing how well everything works and how feature-complete it is given how relatively young the project is and fast-moving development is going. I self-host an instance and do a nightly backup with duplicati to cloud storage. The only downside for me is that there's a new release almost every couple of days, with a message that the backend is out of date. Which is both a pro and a c…

does it, by any chance, do search by any keywords and grouping the same face together, like Google Photos?

Yes, it does. You can also search for terms like "pizza" or "beach with palms"

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by albertzeyer »

Hm, maybe I make too much photos/videos, but my current collection already has more than 2TB, and 20$/month/2TB seems a bit too high.

Btw, in contrast, Google has 100$/year/2TB, so a bit less. (https://one.google.com/about/plans)

However, I am lucky that almost all my photos/videos at Google Photos were either uploaded when it was still not counted towards the storage (and that did not change for the previously uploaded media) or made with some older Pixel phone, where photos/videos in high quality were also not counted, i.e. unlimited storage. My current phone is a Pixel 5, which still has this feature, but it's unfortunately the last Pixel phone where they had this, and support of this phone ended September 2023.

I'm not sure what to do when I cannot use this phone anymore. Change my habit to make less photos/videos? Or just self-host. I could maybe also filter the media a bit, but I'm somewhat too lazy to do that, and I hope that some AI could maybe anyway do this automatically for me, and I don't really like to delete things, even if they seem maybe not so great quality right now, but it seems like they still might have some value, and storage is cheap.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by darkwater »

yau8edq12i wrote: post #40
flakeoil wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is 100% worth the extra $ if you plan on subscribing for a loong time anyway I think many people forget about this. They pay for a monthly or yearly cloud storage subscription, but forget they have to pay this amount every year for the rest of their lifes if they want to keep their data. That's why I also use a Synology disk. I also have an additional lifetime subscription at a cloud storage provider (which pays…

To be fair, the underlying storage of the synology won't last forever. A cheap SSD might reliably last five years, a nice one, about ten years, as far as I know. You also need to pay for the electricity necessary to keep your server running 24/7, if you want a service level equivalent to a cloud storage service. All this adds up. The scales will probably stay in favor of the self-hosting options, but you have to take…

> A cheap SSD might reliably last five years, a nice one, about ten years, as far as I know.

Solution: a RAID system with 5 reliable disks and you replace 2 of them every 5th year, and the other 3 in the following 4 years.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

eklavya wrote: post #29
2Gkashmiri wrote: post #15

I want a self hosted photo backup service for family that doesn't need 4gb ram. I do not need heavy transcoding or stuff. Just a place for people to dump their photos on. I have looked at some alternatives but they are all resource hungry from respective docs. If pixelfed can run on php and limited resources , why not some google photos alternative? Is there something lightweight that let's multiple people to share t…

What exactly would you want? Would you be willing to pay for it? How much?

Set up a software on a vps that uses s3 backend.

People would upload, backup, share their photos and media.

Its not in a single place so I can't use local sync and stuff.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by SillyUsername »

shawnz wrote: post #23
SillyUsername wrote: post #17

End to end encrypted AND encrypted at rest? Otherwise all the staff can see your photos too...

End to end encrypted implies encrypted at rest. Maybe you're thinking they meant "encrypted in transit"?

I did, thanks.
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