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WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code

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Re: WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code

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Because you knew what they meant and trying to correct them only serves to make you feel good about your own knowledge. You aren't helping anyone when you correct them on this.

I agree. I've learned to not care when people say 'expresso' instead of 'espresso', and 'ex cetera' instead of 'et cetera'. I know what they mean, you know what they mean, and correcting everyone only serves to alienate others.

> I've learned to not care when people say 'expresso' instead of 'espresso'

I stopped correcting people on stuff like this 20 years ago, but sadly haven’t been able to stop myself caring :-/ “Expresso” still grates

Re: WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code

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I don't understand why the NSO Group, and by extension Israel, has not been sanctioned over this spyware. It's a dangerous company that sells tools ripe for abuse to some of the West's worst anti-democractic enemies.

Well it probably sells those same tools to the West as well. Gotta stalk those pesky journalists covering genocide somehow. Plus it helps if someone other than you is seen with the dirty hands.

Re: WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code

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Thanks to the FISA "court" system, I doubt US spy agencies fear any legal reprecussions. No need to follow the law if you have a secret court where no one has standing to challenge your actions.

Omnipotent and yet completely legally-neutered FISA is a lazy excuse to avoid thinking about things. There are no illuminati. There are powerful institutions, who nonetheless fear other powerful institutions. In this case, intelligence preferring to remain out of the courts and newspapers.

  There are no illuminati.
Interesting psyops to conflate corruption with "illuminati"..

Re: WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code

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Much as it may pain you, “could care less” is an established idiom in American English that’s been in use for 70 years, and Webster’s dictionary has a whole page about it: https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/could-couldnt-care-l... , in which they say: > people who go through life expecting informal variant idioms in English to behave logically are setting themselves up for a lifetime of hurt.

I couldn't care less if there's a group of people misusing the phrase, logically "I could care less" means the exact opposite of "I couldn't care less". The majority of the world is not American, and presumably the majority of Americans don't use the incorrect phrase, so why should the rest of the world cater for a minority within a minority by putting their butchered phrase on equal footing with the correct phrase?

And logically, flammable and inflammable mean the exact opposite, but here we are.

Re: WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks to the FISA "court" system, I doubt US spy agencies fear any legal reprecussions. No need to follow the law if you have a secret court where no one has standing to challenge your actions.

Omnipotent and yet completely legally-neutered FISA is a lazy excuse to avoid thinking about things. There are no illuminati. There are powerful institutions, who nonetheless fear other powerful institutions. In this case, intelligence preferring to remain out of the courts and newspapers.

Who said anything about illuminatis? Does FISA effectively allow intelligence agencies to hide stuff or not? And can you show me a concrete example of IA actually getting punished from other powerful institutions in any meaningful way?

Re: WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code

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Much as it may pain you, “could care less” is an established idiom in American English that’s been in use for 70 years, and Webster’s dictionary has a whole page about it: https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/could-couldnt-care-l... , in which they say: > people who go through life expecting informal variant idioms in English to behave logically are setting themselves up for a lifetime of hurt.

I couldn't care less if there's a group of people misusing the phrase, logically "I could care less" means the exact opposite of "I couldn't care less". The majority of the world is not American, and presumably the majority of Americans don't use the incorrect phrase, so why should the rest of the world cater for a minority within a minority by putting their butchered phrase on equal footing with the correct phrase?

The majority of the world doesn't speak English, so why care about using correct English at all right? Btw American English is still the most common variant on the internet. More so than British English.

Re: WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code

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I couldn't care less if there's a group of people misusing the phrase, logically "I could care less" means the exact opposite of "I couldn't care less". The majority of the world is not American, and presumably the majority of Americans don't use the incorrect phrase, so why should the rest of the world cater for a minority within a minority by putting their butchered phrase on equal footing with the correct phrase?

If I make a mistake like this, please correct me. That's one way I can improve. This attitude of just not correcting people is idiotic. It's on the person receiving the correction or criticism to ignore it if they wish. Not on people to be silent.

Like I could care less (but the "like" is silent)

Re: WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code

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How would they get paid? Almost every bank in every us-allied countries would have to comply to hand over the money. The US banking regulations apply overseas because those banks want to interact with US entities. That's the nature of the US-Dollar economy. Are you a French wine maker that wants to sell to America? You better be using USD with a friendly bank to pay for things like import fees/tariffs (or the America…

But that's because they're doing business with banks that want to remain friendly with the US, not because they're doing business specifically in US dollars. If they got paid in Turkish liras, but through a bank under US influence, those liras would also get seized, wouldn't they? On the other hand, if someone used a local bank in their country to transact with an entity in China, and China demanded their assets in t…

Discussion about the US dollar misses the point.

They do it because they can, basically we all live under the influence of the US empire, they can put pressure on most banks of they really want to, and if they really want to, details like which currency was used will not stop them.

Re: WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code

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Because you knew what they meant and trying to correct them only serves to make you feel good about your own knowledge. You aren't helping anyone when you correct them on this.

It costs everyone time and effort to try to decode nonsensical input. It's a crime against humanity to not correct grammar.

It’s not grammar and it’s not a correction. The phrase “I could care less” has only one meaning and that meaning is “I don’t care”. It is being used correctly.

Re: WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code

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Thanks to the FISA "court" system, I doubt US spy agencies fear any legal reprecussions. No need to follow the law if you have a secret court where no one has standing to challenge your actions.

Omnipotent and yet completely legally-neutered FISA is a lazy excuse to avoid thinking about things. There are no illuminati. There are powerful institutions, who nonetheless fear other powerful institutions. In this case, intelligence preferring to remain out of the courts and newspapers.

> There are powerful institutions, who nonetheless fear other powerful institutions.

They don't "fear" other powerful institution. Just like chess players, they "game" with each other.

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