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Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by syndicatedjelly »

pksebben wrote: post #38
kibwen wrote: post #4

The financialization of everything is why we can't have nice things.

It drives me batty. Consider a team of people building a house. They have all sorts of things that need focus and work - planning the build, assembling resources, coordinating specialists and doing the actual construction. Now, add a second team who don't understand anything about what the first team is doing, who the first team have to talk to every time they want to buy a pencil or screw. How it is that anyone thin…

You don’t get it. The first team is the “doers”. They do things. When they see something that they need to do, they do it.

The second group is the “thinkers”. They think for a living. They drink coffee and wear suits. They think things like, “that’s expensive,” sometimes.

The doers can’t think. The thinkers can’t do. By combining the two, we end up with a group who can neither think nor do.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by syndicatedjelly »

avgcorrection wrote: post #75
mikemcquaid wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s completely unrelated to Homebrew. We have zero connection to anything related to Tea and Max hasn’t been involved with Homebrew for the best part of a decade. Mike McQuaid, Homebrew Project Leader and Homebrew maintainer for the last 15 years.

OK Great Leader. People are noting that the “Homebrew guy” is behind two back-to-back stupid ideas (that package thing and this). You can’t deny that he was involved with Homebrew and that’s all that’s being said. The OSS CV thing can be a double-edged sword for all involved parties.

You need to take a break from the internet

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by atoav »

charcircuit wrote: post #42
aChattuio wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it doesn't even solve the trust problem for anything off chain. And even if it would than the question of which chain is the right one comes up. Did you know there are fake nfts and you hardly can see which ones are real? You literally need an initial trust anchor like a project website with https to learn about it. What a wonderful irony.

Counterfeits exist in real life too, bit crypto has the benefit that you can actually prove who created something where in real life a good counterfeit could remain undetected.

Yeah but the crypto is outside of the object of desire. I too can give you a signed paper that tells you that you now own the Mona Lisa. You can even formally verify that the signature is real and by me! Notice anything?

The important questions for you remain unanswered:

- Do I actually have the rights to sell you the thing I try to sell you?

- What do I actually sell you?

- Am I who I claim I am?

- etc.

NFTs are not answering any of these questions, they are the equivalent of an elaborate signature on the contract of the guy trying to sell you a bridge.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by avgcorrection »

syndicatedjelly wrote: post #83
avgcorrection wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK Great Leader. People are noting that the “Homebrew guy” is behind two back-to-back stupid ideas (that package thing and this). You can’t deny that he was involved with Homebrew and that’s all that’s being said. The OSS CV thing can be a double-edged sword for all involved parties.

You need to take a break from the internet

Et tu

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by latexr »

colesantiago wrote: post #12

This is an obvious pump and dump scam grift. I thought we have learned from the crypto hype that stuff like tea.xyz and others in the crypto / blockchain nonsense space are setup for investors to dump tokens on others trying to make money out of it. It is unfortunate that this is now targeting open source developers and it is even more disappointing that this is made from the creator of Homebrew. Who is the customer…

> and it is even more disappointing that this is made from the creator of Homebrew.

Max hasn’t been involved with Homebrew for over a decade.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by lucideer »

ptx wrote: post #79
lucideer wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're a user - I'm purely referring to contributors. It's clearly gained popularity for good reasons - it's an API that is very user-oriented, with reasonably good UX for most people. The downsides are mainly related to issues users don't see (i.e. security).

What are some of the security issues? (Just curious. I don't use Homebrew.)

Homebrew adds a location to your $PATH that is writable by unprivileged users. This means any non-root process has privileges to mask any binary on your system. They do this in the name of "convenience" - so that the Homebrew process can install apps without the user entering their password every time.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by charcircuit »

atoav wrote: post #84
charcircuit wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Counterfeits exist in real life too, bit crypto has the benefit that you can actually prove who created something where in real life a good counterfeit could remain undetected.

Yeah but the crypto is outside of the object of desire. I too can give you a signed paper that tells you that you now own the Mona Lisa. You can even formally verify that the signature is real and by me! Notice anything? The important questions for you remain unanswered: - Do I actually have the rights to sell you the thing I try to sell you? - What do I actually sell you? - Am I who I claim I am? - etc. NFTs are not…

None of those are true when someone is selling physical products either. Cryptography at least gives us a chance to verify someone's claims.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by acdha »

charcircuit wrote: post #88
atoav wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but the crypto is outside of the object of desire. I too can give you a signed paper that tells you that you now own the Mona Lisa. You can even formally verify that the signature is real and by me! Notice anything? The important questions for you remain unanswered: - Do I actually have the rights to sell you the thing I try to sell you? - What do I actually sell you? - Am I who I claim I am? - etc. NFTs are not…

None of those are true when someone is selling physical products either. Cryptography at least gives us a chance to verify someone's claims.

It gives you a distraction from the real work they described. You still need to do all of that work, so at best the blockchain is redundant.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

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Post by atoav »

charcircuit wrote: post #88
atoav wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but the crypto is outside of the object of desire. I too can give you a signed paper that tells you that you now own the Mona Lisa. You can even formally verify that the signature is real and by me! Notice anything? The important questions for you remain unanswered: - Do I actually have the rights to sell you the thing I try to sell you? - What do I actually sell you? - Am I who I claim I am? - etc. NFTs are not…

None of those are true when someone is selling physical products either. Cryptography at least gives us a chance to verify someone's claims.

Indeed they are not true, but physical selling typically doesn't pretend it is.

> Cryptography at least gives us a chance to verify someone's claims.

Has it a better track record at doing so that e.g. a notary?

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