If you think buying car is hard try buying tractor.
New car buying guide: the algorithm (2021)
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Re: New car buying guide: the algorithm (2021)
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
on top of it all, your loss of value over time is much lower. will never understand why people would buy a new car that depreciates by 30% the very second you drive off the dealership.
Concerns over reliability? Some car issues can be erratic and you may not find out about them until some time later. If you buy used, there's a level of risk regarding what the car's been through with previous owners. If you have a family and/or work with a tight schedule and/or park in areas where you wouldn't like to be left stranded, you may really value reliability.
You've never heard of a brand new car going wrong? A used car that's been on the road for 10 years with a full maintenance history gives me more hope for reliability than a brand new car that hasn't had time to reveal its problems. You can always pay someone to insure you against unlikely events and they don't care at all whether the car is new or not. It's up to you to decide how much risk you want to take.
Re: New car buying guide: the algorithm (2021)
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
> will never understand why Transferability of warranties ? The idea that a warranty can be transferred seems like an urban legend.
not sure how this is done in the US, but if you buy used from a dealer, I guess you still get a warranty on that?
Minimum 6 months in Europe. Buy from a brand dealership and you get usually 12 months, some even offer 24. For used cars.
Re: New car buying guide: the algorithm (2021)
#84This whole thing is so annoying. I would much rather purchase my car from Toyota corporate and not have to buy a car with some random guy's name stickered onto it because it sat on his lot and he got commission from the sale. I don't care of the sales money evaporates out of my local community, it's not worth the hassle.
Yeah, negotiating a price is a loosing battle on average. why ? Because you're always on the defending side: the salesperson tries to max the money he gest from you and then you have to make a rather big effort to just get the fair price. Granted, when talking to big company, you can't even negociate. I'd find myself in a pretty awkward position if my goal in a professional relationship was to make the other side loo…
That's not how sales work so. Seems more to be an issue on your side whem it comes to negotoating.
Re: New car buying guide: the algorithm (2021)
#851. Find out what you want from a car 2. Realize a 25 year old car does all that 3. Just pay the few thousand in cash I may be weird but I don't get why anyone would make dept just buy a fancy car they can't afford?
Safety. A new-ish car has much better safety devices, better chassis, more crumple zones than a car that's 25 yr old.
Re: New car buying guide: the algorithm (2021)
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe a cultural thing? Are you British? I don't know anyone under 40 who enjoys the process of going to a car dealership and doing the awkward dance of trying not to get ripped off. Hey, if he doesn't hate it, and gets a good deal then good for him. I just can't believe that his feeling is commonplace.
Not every sales person is trying to rip you off so. That's not what sales is, despite some actually doing it. Most sales people so, are just doing their job in acquiring customers for their business. Edit: Cars need service and maintenance. Dealerships can, and in Europe do with the exception of used car dealerships, provide these services as well. And that is something Tesla is really bad at.
Ok, "ripped off" might be an unfair description.
They are using manipulative techniques to extract as much profit from dealing with me as possible.
I understand that it's their job. But as a consumer, I _hate_ it and therefore would consider spending more money to avoid the uncomfortable feeling dealing with a car dealership gives me.
That's the value for me and I'm certainly not alone in that.
Re: New car buying guide: the algorithm (2021)
#87If you think buying car is hard try buying tractor.
What does that process look like?
Re: New car buying guide: the algorithm (2021)
#88No thanks, I’d rather walk.
It should be a human right to be able to walk places. Unfortunately in most places you have to give way to cars. If you don't they'll kill you or at the very least destroy your body. This makes walking deeply unpleasant. You'll start to hate cars and the only way to escape them is to get a car.
Re: New car buying guide: the algorithm (2021)
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can't speak other than personally, but my step son falls into this category and doesn't hate being sold to. He and his partner have both bought a number of cars from dealerships. And he's not got that from me or his mum, we're both quite the opposite.
Maybe a cultural thing? Are you British? I don't know anyone under 40 who enjoys the process of going to a car dealership and doing the awkward dance of trying not to get ripped off. Hey, if he doesn't hate it, and gets a good deal then good for him. I just can't believe that his feeling is commonplace.
> ...who enjoys the process of going to a car dealership and doing the awkward dance of trying not to get ripped off.
This. The point is, once you are old enough and have heared enough success-stories of extroverts going full "Grand Bazaar"-Style... you are just frustrated if you know that you are going to loose against all these dark-patterns. There´s a reason why they can buy italian soccer-teams without really "producing" anything.
I´ll gladly throw my money on anyone who is going to take these dealerships out of the algorithm. I know that just someone else will get rich... but hey, Tesla might at least use this money e.g. for product-development etc..
Re: New car buying guide: the algorithm (2021)
#901. Find out what you want from a car 2. Realize a 25 year old car does all that 3. Just pay the few thousand in cash I may be weird but I don't get why anyone would make dept just buy a fancy car they can't afford?
The 25 years old electric cars are not great.
You're not wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1