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Reddit signs $60M content licensing deal with AI company

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Re: Reddit signs $60M content licensing deal with AI company

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jtriangle wrote: post #43
m0guz wrote: post #5

I am glad I trashed my reddit posts/comments before deleting accounts with shreddit [0]. [0] https://github.com/andrewbanchich/shreddit

I did the same, but, it seems reddit has some capability to restore posts anyway, as I keep finding original posts of mine via google while my logged in profile remains blank... It's to the point where I search for them every few weeks and take time to edit and delete them manually, after which they seem to stay gone. My best guess is that they can detect mass deletion and have some sort of automation that restores p…

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Re: Reddit signs $60M content licensing deal with AI company

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ametrau wrote: post #75
jtriangle wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used a rust port of shreddit to delete all my posts across all my accounts, such that when logged in, there are no posts on my profile, however, I spent about a month on and off googling my username and finding posts that didn't stay deleted but wouldn't show up on my profile. So I'd guess that reddit somehow restored some number of posts, and it seems to occasionally continue to do so. In terms of hurting the site…

The key thing is not to delete all your posts but overwrite a couple of times (to bust their cache). And then leave the account active with no real posts. There’s a few projects that will do this.

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Re: Reddit signs $60M content licensing deal with AI company

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Post by justaj »

FireBeyond wrote: post #53
aldarisbm wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

good luck on actually "deleting" your data

The best that can be done, where possible, is to edit each comment down to whitespace, save that, and then delete it. But yeah, probably still not technically good enough.

I archive (in multiple places, including locally) all of the threads that I add as sources to my personal knowledge base. I'm sorry, but shared knowledge and wisdom I can refer to in the future is more important than your "protest voice" against a centralized platform.

I recommend that if you want to delete something, then delete your account only. Your username won't be visible, but the content still will be.

Re: Reddit signs $60M content licensing deal with AI company

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Post by rakoo »

leobg wrote: post #17

How can they license something that they didn’t author? Yes, they have TOS. But training generative AI wasn’t something that existed when ~99% of Reddit’s content was created, hence users could not possibly have consented to it. Besides, at least in Germany, TOS cannot contain regulations that are “surprising” or “unexpected”. Using my content to serve ads is one thing I might expect. But licensing it out for a fee t…

> How can they license something that they didn’t author?

Capitalism in a nutshell

Re: Reddit signs $60M content licensing deal with AI company

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Post by m0guz »

jtriangle wrote: post #43
m0guz wrote: post #5

I am glad I trashed my reddit posts/comments before deleting accounts with shreddit [0]. [0] https://github.com/andrewbanchich/shreddit

I did the same, but, it seems reddit has some capability to restore posts anyway, as I keep finding original posts of mine via google while my logged in profile remains blank... It's to the point where I search for them every few weeks and take time to edit and delete them manually, after which they seem to stay gone. My best guess is that they can detect mass deletion and have some sort of automation that restores p…

I had tried manually delete post/comments before shreddit, half of the deleted post/comments returned after refreshing the page. Checking the requests, many of them would return 500 status code.

Later move to shreddit and created a cronjob to delete the entries, and kept shreddit running a week or so. As you suggested, you will hit Reddit's rate limit soon after start mass deleting or your account shadow-banned.

Just checked two of my deleted account, can't see any post or comment. I wish I didn't delete it, just overwrite them with random sentences from local AI

Re: Reddit signs $60M content licensing deal with AI company

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Post by SleepilyLimping »

selivanovp wrote: post #66

Reddit became a weird place in recent months. Rampant propaganda wars in most subreddits, recommending system pushing ridiculous stories to front page feed from subreddits I've never visited before. Even the niche technical subreddits I used to enjoy becoming a battlefield regularly.

It's a US election year /tinfoil

Re: Reddit signs $60M content licensing deal with AI company

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Post by fragmede »

ySteeK wrote: post #78
SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now kn…

At least in Germany, such agreements are afaik invalid and without a severability clause, possibly all others too. Simply because something like copyright cannot be assigned in Germany. Secondly, there are ways to use Reddit without ever having agreed to the ToS.

how do you make a comment without creating an account which requires you to agree to the tos?

Re: Reddit signs $60M content licensing deal with AI company

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Post by fragmede »

data-ottawa wrote: post #48
pier25 wrote: post #14

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That's just the tip of the iceberg. There's a reason plenty of people append "reddit" to their google searches.

The main reasons are to get local content, or to avoid SEO spam sites which provide overly verbose listicles or "review" sites that link out to Amazon affiliate links. Reddit is still one of the few sites left that provide user content openly. FB+Instagram+Twitter are entirely inaccessible if you don't have an account, and a lot of forums do things like only show images to logged in users. I've found the Reddit exper…

which is really fascinating in the face of TikTok being Googleable. like, it's still not there, but being able to Google for a TikTok but not an Instagram reel is something.

Re: Reddit signs $60M content licensing deal with AI company

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Post by SAI_Peregrinus »

ySteeK wrote: post #78
SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now kn…

At least in Germany, such agreements are afaik invalid and without a severability clause, possibly all others too. Simply because something like copyright cannot be assigned in Germany. Secondly, there are ways to use Reddit without ever having agreed to the ToS.

That clause does not assign copyright. You explicitly keep your own copyright (in the previous clause, I didn't reproduce it above). You just grant them a license to use your content in the ways they listed.
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