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Re: Novel drug could protect brains from damage after repeat concussions

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Post by humansareok1 » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 5:10 PM UTC

doublerabbit wrote: post #52

AlexandrB wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Humans are not important, we are a fault to this world. No other plant or animal is important either. Nature doesn't give a shit about any of us. The ability to actually care about abstract concepts like the suffering of others is a rare trait in the animal kingdom. Humans have it. Maybe some primates and cetaceans have it. Otherwise animals are quite content to rip each other apart in the most cruel ways possible…

I removed that statement but: > Humans are not important, we are a fault to this world. > This alone makes human a little special, no? No, not really. We build militant armies only to send them off to fight so we can cause brutality to the same race for all but nothing other than evil and greed. At least animals are mauling in for survival. You could say power too but at least they eat the remains.

You and several others in this thread are disturbingly nihilistic misanthropes. You should not be allowed to vote nor breed, though what self respecting person would ever couple with you in the first place.

Re: Novel drug could protect brains from damage after repeat concussions

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Post by humansareok1 » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 5:11 PM UTC

moltenc wrote: post #60

maipen wrote: post #35

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Because we humans are more important than them. I don’t understand the issue. We should try to minimize the pain and suffering of these test subjects, in a few decades I am sure we will have better alternatives…

> Because we humans are more important than them. The profoundly unaware speciesism and selfishness in this comment is exactly why there is so much suffering and pain in this world.

What an insane person you are. Animals are far more cruel than Humans could ever hope to be. The mere fact that we care about this fact at all is evidence of our superiority. The human capacity for suffering, love, creativity, etc far outstrip anything in the animal kingdom and its not close.

Re: Novel drug could protect brains from damage after repeat concussions

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Post by humansareok1 » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 5:13 PM UTC

moltenc wrote: post #61

vdaea wrote: post #42

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A human life is worth an infinite amount of animal lives.

This is the same attitude a toddler has. Pure Id and zero rational thought.

I'd sacrifice a billion mice to save my child, so would any parent. You sad incels have no love in your life and its painfully evident.

Re: Novel drug could protect brains from damage after repeat concussions

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Post by ProjectArcturis » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 5:42 PM UTC

It is extremely unlikely that a drug could prevent damage from repeat concussions. Blunt force trauma to the brain causes a plethora of cascading cellular injuries and responses. A single drug might limit damage from one of those pathways, but it's certainly not going to render a concussion harmless. Just like a single drug isn't going to be a cure for a gunshot.

Re: Novel drug could protect brains from damage after repeat concussions

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Post by DaleNeumann » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 5:48 PM UTC

Zambyte wrote: post #41

maipen wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because we humans are more important than them. I don’t understand the issue. We should try to minimize the pain and suffering of these test subjects, in a few decades I am sure we will have better alternatives…

> Because we humans are more important than them. This seems to be self evident to you. Can you explain why this is true?

Does a beetle scream when you step on it?

Re: Novel drug could protect brains from damage after repeat concussions

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Post by ethanbond » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 5:58 PM UTC

humansareok1 wrote: post #80

ethanbond wrote: post #58

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Well the inconvenient thing is that objectively we aren't more important than other species. What you're actually doing is just overriding that objective fact with a subjective one.

Go ahead and objectively prove humans are less important than other species.

That's not what I said.

Re: Novel drug could protect brains from damage after repeat concussions

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Post by ethanbond » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 5:58 PM UTC

continuational wrote: post #78

ethanbond wrote: post #58

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Well the inconvenient thing is that objectively we aren't more important than other species. What you're actually doing is just overriding that objective fact with a subjective one.

Important for what?

Exactly.

Re: Novel drug could protect brains from damage after repeat concussions

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Post by teachrdan » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 6:07 PM UTC

humansareok1 wrote: post #83

moltenc wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the same attitude a toddler has. Pure Id and zero rational thought.

I'd sacrifice a billion mice to save my child, so would any parent. You sad incels have no love in your life and its painfully evident.

What if I would sacrifice a billion human lives to save my child? That's hardly the basis by which to decide which lives are valuable and which are valueless.

Re: Novel drug could protect brains from damage after repeat concussions

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Post by Zambyte » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 6:16 PM UTC

DaleNeumann wrote: post #85

Zambyte wrote: post #41

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> Because we humans are more important than them. This seems to be self evident to you. Can you explain why this is true?

Does a beetle scream when you step on it?

Does a human scream when you shoot it in the face?

I can name lots of animals that scream when you step on them. Is this related to the thread?

Re: Novel drug could protect brains from damage after repeat concussions

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Post by mrguyorama » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 6:22 PM UTC

doublerabbit wrote: post #52

AlexandrB wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Humans are not important, we are a fault to this world. No other plant or animal is important either. Nature doesn't give a shit about any of us. The ability to actually care about abstract concepts like the suffering of others is a rare trait in the animal kingdom. Humans have it. Maybe some primates and cetaceans have it. Otherwise animals are quite content to rip each other apart in the most cruel ways possible…

I removed that statement but: > Humans are not important, we are a fault to this world. > This alone makes human a little special, no? No, not really. We build militant armies only to send them off to fight so we can cause brutality to the same race for all but nothing other than evil and greed. At least animals are mauling in for survival. You could say power too but at least they eat the remains.

ANTS go to global war. Murdering a significant amount of your rivals over territory is a completely normal animal thing. The fact that we are very good at it and invented explosives to do it "better" is just another feather in our cap that we have made ourselves "different". Hell, dolphins murder porpoises and launch them 50 ft into the air for shits and giggles and rape other dolphins when they are bored.

Philosophy is an invention of humans. Laws are an invention of humans. ETHICS are an invention of humans. Nature thinks our laughable attempts at "being ethical" are adorable. Nature is perfectly happy for us to brutally torture each other.