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Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by charcircuit »

imiric wrote: post #58
jdoss wrote: post #34

I echo the author's praise of YouTube Premium. When it first came out I was like there is no way I would ever pay for such service. Being an early YouTube user, pre Google buyout, I still was in love with the platform that gave me content from real people. Fast forward to 2020 the US election cycle broke me. I could not stand the amount of political ads that were being shoved down my throat. My kids were perma home d…

So a corporation acquired the platform you enjoyed using, and corrupted the user experience so much that it forced you to pay them to get the old UX back, and... you're happy about it? Sounds like Stockholm syndrome, to be honest, with Google laughing all the way to the bank.

No ads is not sustainable. It's not like the alternative is youtube remaining ad free. The alternative is youtube shutting down.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by joemi »

imiric wrote: post #58
jdoss wrote: post #34

I echo the author's praise of YouTube Premium. When it first came out I was like there is no way I would ever pay for such service. Being an early YouTube user, pre Google buyout, I still was in love with the platform that gave me content from real people. Fast forward to 2020 the US election cycle broke me. I could not stand the amount of political ads that were being shoved down my throat. My kids were perma home d…

So a corporation acquired the platform you enjoyed using, and corrupted the user experience so much that it forced you to pay them to get the old UX back, and... you're happy about it? Sounds like Stockholm syndrome, to be honest, with Google laughing all the way to the bank.

Something like youtube (streaming _huge_ amounts of videos with with no monetization) was bound to either get ads or die. The corporation didn't kill it. In fact, quite the opposite: they made it so it could keep living.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by eurekin »

thrdbndndn wrote: post #67
jdminhbg wrote: post #25

So nice to see a YouTube client that makes sense on the platform it’s on. Compare to the official YT client for iPad, for example, which bizarrely uses the same tiny Material touch targets as on phones.

> which bizarrely uses the same tiny Material touch targets as on phones I personally think iPad YouTube app's touch is not too bad; but in general (not limited to YouTube), I think the UI design of web video players are all too fixated on the existing design. For example, when not in fullscreen mode, I don't see why all the controls need to be confined to the video frame and disappear when not hovering. While this d…

Another one with a same pet peeve here.

It's especially "interesting", when the slider allows to navigate to the exact frame you want (that happens very rarely) and the information you want to see is in the subtitles burned into the video - the ones not shifting with UI controls. The UI obscures that and I have to make tens of attempts with increased sloppiness due to frustration to take it all in.

Most often it's something I keep mishearing and need subtitles to actually understand what's being talked about. For example, I keep hearing "Hello awful person" in Anton Petrov's videos. https://youtu.be/PyRf7B1Ji4A?si=bIA7S8qB_WLdLgVs&t=45

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by echelon »

justworkout wrote: post #22
spiderice wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is that? Obviously they don’t want a third party app to be that experience, but they make native apps for everything else. Also, Christian can’t help himself but attach his apps to large companies that can cut him off overnight. Haha.

> but they make native apps for everything else. They do. But it's difficult to call anything they make "smooth." Google does some decent backend stuff but their frontend experience is not.

Everything Google does in their own ecosystem is smooth.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by joemi »

p-e-w wrote: post #21

> So I dunno, if you can afford an expensive Apple Vision Pro, I’d really consider treating yourself to YouTube Premium! The reason I don't have premium (and one of the reasons I block ads) is that I don't want YouTube tracking my viewing habits, which I cannot prevent if I'm forced to log in to access premium. It has nothing to do with monetary cost. I'm always surprised when I see statements like this one that appe…

Stopping Google's tracking isn't as big a priority to most people as it seems to be to you (otherwise google would be out of business). So it shouldn't really be all that surprising when people make statements that aren't about stopping google's tracking.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by unobatbayar »

echelon wrote: post #84
justworkout wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but they make native apps for everything else. They do. But it's difficult to call anything they make "smooth." Google does some decent backend stuff but their frontend experience is not.

Everything Google does in their own ecosystem is smooth.

Not as smooth as Apple.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by jdoss »

imiric wrote: post #58
jdoss wrote: post #34

I echo the author's praise of YouTube Premium. When it first came out I was like there is no way I would ever pay for such service. Being an early YouTube user, pre Google buyout, I still was in love with the platform that gave me content from real people. Fast forward to 2020 the US election cycle broke me. I could not stand the amount of political ads that were being shoved down my throat. My kids were perma home d…

So a corporation acquired the platform you enjoyed using, and corrupted the user experience so much that it forced you to pay them to get the old UX back, and... you're happy about it? Sounds like Stockholm syndrome, to be honest, with Google laughing all the way to the bank.

I said kill me now at the end of my post and that I am part of the problem and you yet think I am happy about it? Ok you got me bud. Yep 100% Stockholm syndrome. No, I am not happy about it, but what else is there? Do you block YouTube on your network so you don't see content from that platform? I'd wager you don't.

Also, do you really think that any platform as big as YouTube can remain free forever? I will pay for things that bring value to my life. YouTube Premium brings value almost every day. I am pretty sure you pay for things that bring value or make thing easier for you in life, so maybe don't post these kinds of responses in the future as they are cynical and bring no value to the conversation.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by unobatbayar »

p-e-w wrote: post #17
mickle00 wrote: post #3

love that this was built from the Apollo developer. Obviously incredibly talented.

I'm amazed that someone who has been this badly burned by a corporation controlling their API access would even think about writing another app that uses third-party APIs, to be honest.

It seems that he found a (momentary?) gap in the Vision Pro app market and promptly seized the opportunity.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by eurekin »

p-e-w wrote: post #68
diebeforei485 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does their Incognito Mode meet your needs?

No, because I don't trust them. Otherwise I wouldn't have to worry in the first place.

I love this comic on-topic:

https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/11gxpcu/our_little_...

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