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Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by add-sub-mul-div »

xwowsersx wrote: post #57
neilv wrote: post #16

If all Nitter instances get shut down, that's another reason for people to stop putting information into the Twitter/X walled-garden. Nitter has had the effect of a pressure release valve, for the people who object most to Twitter/X. Without the Nitter compromise, more people will stop linking to Twitter/X threads, indulging people who still post there, etc.

I'm with you that this is disappointing, but folks who use these sorts of tools tend to be a bit naive about the impact of them going away. It's a little silly, to be honest. Best numbers I could come by is X does something like 100B impressions/day and x.com saw 1.2B visits in the month of December. Will some people stop seeing X posts on Nitter? Sure, maybe. Will it matter to X? I doubt it.

It's created a reverse eternal September. The masses stay confined to one place. Other places can flourish with the old school smaller community kind of feel and quality. Let twitter live in its current state if it means other places won't be taken over by influencers and other bullshit.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by twelvechairs »

koito17 wrote: post #7

On one hand, this is unfortunate since X always directs me to a login page, and Nitter was the only way I could view whatever gets posted nowadays. On the other hand, the cynical side of me is thankful that I have no more desirable means to see the contents of posts on X. Edit: a similar thing happened with Reddit and Teddit(?). API restrictions effectively killed alternative frontends, so I simply don't look at Redd…

Reddit the non-profit frontends are still working (redreader for android is good).

Twitter, instagram etc. there's nothing even this reasonable.

Begs the question what will the future open web forum/discussion place be? Lemmy doesn't seem to have really hit the simplicity to attract users

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by jjackson5324 »

sergiotapia wrote: post #63
jjackson5324 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting because the content I get on X is far, far more valuable than HN + Reddit + Facebook combined. It’s the only place you can follow subject matter experts and get their real time thoughts. I think people on HN just don’t know how to use Twitter? If you want to use it effectively, you have to utilize lists. Curate your own lists or find someone you respect and follow their lists. If someone is posting things…

> Interesting because the content I get on X is far, far more valuable than HN + Reddit + Facebook combined. That has been my experience as well. Easily. I learned a ton about LLMs, open source projects, growth hacks, marketing tips, a lot of great from the trenches lessons. Best site on the web.

Yep exactly. I’m also a big formula 1 fan and it’s the only place where I can get insight from engineers who are involved in the day to day of building race cars for ex.

Reddit’s f1 subreddit has really degraded in quality unfortunately (just people posting clickbait articles).

It’s the same for investing, politics, cars, poker and everything else I enjoy.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by add-sub-mul-div »

timeon wrote: post #36
add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a terrible site though and calls to disallow submissions from there (in comments here) were common going back well before Musk took over, so the Twitter dislike originated independently of anyone's views about him.

Dislike is not priority or let say common denominator. Problem is that X/Twitter cannot be viewed without login. This was not the case before.

It used to be widely disliked even before the additional newer problem you mentioned.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by paulgb »

cubefox wrote: post #44
simonw wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(If ad revenue is so important, maybe don't tell your advertisers to "GFY" live on stage.)

That was a reaction to the advertisers pulling out before that.

He also said that the company was massively underreporting how much of its traffic was bots. That sort of thing can spook an advertiser!

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by giancarlostoro »

koito17 wrote: post #7

On one hand, this is unfortunate since X always directs me to a login page, and Nitter was the only way I could view whatever gets posted nowadays. On the other hand, the cynical side of me is thankful that I have no more desirable means to see the contents of posts on X. Edit: a similar thing happened with Reddit and Teddit(?). API restrictions effectively killed alternative frontends, so I simply don't look at Redd…

> API restrictions effectively killed alternative frontends, so I simply don't look at Reddit posts anymore.

They recently did a poll to users, asking which UI you use most. I put old reddit because it is. I cannot understand how in what? 6+ years they developed new reddit and still don't have true feature parity? This tells me they don't have their priorities in line, and they want to IPO to boot.

Personally I think some websites don't really have any need to become publicly traded companies, I rather they become profitable and not controllable by the whims of tech illiterate investors.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by [deleted] »

superhumanuser wrote: post #74
jjackson5324 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting because the content I get on X is far, far more valuable than HN + Reddit + Facebook combined. It’s the only place you can follow subject matter experts and get their real time thoughts. I think people on HN just don’t know how to use Twitter? If you want to use it effectively, you have to utilize lists. Curate your own lists or find someone you respect and follow their lists. If someone is posting things…

Why is this reply getting downvoted?

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Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by lucb1e »

sphars wrote: post #67
lucb1e wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The repository says at the top in a HUGE FONT that "Libreddit is currently not operational" and the website just shows a oneliner saying Germans are not allowed to read that page. The issue tracker talks of forking and stuff. Doesn't feel too welcoming or functional. But in actuality it works just fine? Is the message simply wrong when you plug in your own api key and stay in the free tier of reddit's API?

I think that message was to let users know it's basically on it's last legs and could 100% stop at anytime. When the API changes started, most all of the instances ran into rate limits due to the number of requests. But it works just fine until that rate is hit. Like I mentioned, I've been running my own private instance and I've never hit the rate limit so it's been working fine for me. And I don't know about any AP…

Oh, that's cool! Sounds like it should suffice for my usage also, which is extraordinarily light since they shut down reddit-is-fun. I've mostly replaced that with mastodon, not the same concept but serves a similar "let's scroll and see what's new" function.

After doing some analysis (a while ago) on reddit comment/submission rates before and after the boycott and new rate limits, it seems either only a tiny tiny fraction actually left reddit and/or reddit benefited from the negative publicity as much as or more than they lost. Since nothing has changed since then, I suppose there's no point in me staying off the platform anymore, especially if I'm not contributing with OC submissions or comments. Libreddit sounds like a good way to do that, thanks :)

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

#90

Post by dkjaudyeqooe »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #43
Me1000 wrote: post #11

This is disappointing because often times people link to threads on Twitter but if you’re lucky enough to not get a login wall, the full thread wont be visible without logging in. (Which I’m not going to do) I really wish people would just stop linking me to twitter (or better yet, stop using it altogether).

Why not make an account if you want to read it?

Having to make an account to read a website sounds idiotic.

Why should twitter be special in that regard?

It's not so you're essentially promoting the idea that we should have to make an account to read any website, which is idiotic.

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