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Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Fingers crossed it's another attempt along the "We're building the Metaverse and it's gonna be awesome and a great success because everyone is into VR now and it's not an overhyped fad like all the others before until some other crap replaces it". Facebook spent $36 billion on Metaverse, let's hope it spends double on AI and changes it's name to Aimmerse before that other crap makes it obsolete.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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That's such a crazy scale to consider that it makes me wonder how easy it is to maintain control over that many cards, and how easy it would be for someone at a company of this scale to become a purchasing tunnel to countries with sanctions.

They'd notice a couple thousand of these if they were to vanish or never arrive. Anything less is fairly meaningless for major economies.

China for example needs epic scale numbers of GPUs to power its economy going forward. The equivalent of many millions of H100s for a $20 trillion economy looking to advance rapidly.

Given the restricted production globally (Nvidia production bottleneck, with only a few places on earth that can produce something like this), until China can produce their own very high-end GPUs their economy is going to be held back by the lack of capacity. Tens of thousands of high-end GPUs slipping through isn't going to cut it, that simply doesn't matter very much.

You can prevent China from getting a million H100s. You can't prevent them from getting ten thousand of them from many different sources over time.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Say what you want about Facebook, the size of their dataset and computational resources definitely make them competitive, and their data science and ML teams have been always top notch. I think the Verge is missing the mark with the headline and general focus of the article. "Building AGI" is whatever, like half the companies with enough GPUs are claiming that and AGI is like more poorly-defined than "metaverse". The…

Saying they make it “open source” in the same article where they say they need “350k high end GPUs to build it”. Is the equivalent of saying: ”we offer free nuclear submarine driving lessons”.

I know you don’t need as many resources for inference as for training. But still…

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Wouldn't it still be $15bn? If I manage to buy $20 worth of gold for $10 through a special deal, is it not still $20 worth of gold?

Used GPUs cannot be sold for the same price that new GPUs are bought.

No, but they still got $15bn worth, regardless of discount.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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I’m wondering if there would be enough FUD to crash one coin’s value. And then if one falls perhaps more could.

FUD of what? That some rich fool out there is double spending, and you of all people would be the counterparty?

Presumably the new bitcoin ETFs allow shorting? Taking a big short position before crashing the value sounds like a plausible attack.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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A stockpile of rapidly depreciating assets bought at eye-watering margins is an unusual brag for any company, no?

CPUs are rapidly depreciating, hard drives are rapidly depreciating, SSDs are doubly rapidly depreciating, with this logic no hardware buy would make sense.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Meta's AR/VR strategy is still the over-arching priority and given how well Quest 3 and Ray Bans glasses are doing shows that it is likely the right one. Especially once Apple Vision Pro ignites the industry. AI will be used to enhance that e.g. generated avatars, autonomous agents, hand/body tracking etc.

> Especially once Apple Vision Pro ignites the industry. I may be repeating my own errors with the following as I said much the same for the iPhone and the Apple Watch when they were new, but… The prices Apple are asking for seem excessive given what the products actually do, surely the cheaper alternatives are going to be what really matters? (In this case, cheaper alternatives would include the Meta headsets).

Cheaper than an 8K OLED.

Watched a guy spend $6K on iPads for his kids like it was a stocking stuffer. Took 15 minutes as he had to call the wife on if 1TB was enough. Felt bad I was just buying an Air so wandered to let the sales kid work him.

Kid said it was an overage day.

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