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What happens when a school bans smartphones? A complete transformation

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Re: What happens when a school bans smartphones? A complete transformation

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It's amazing how these arguments come about. Were parents freaking out about emergencies at school when they were kids?

During every school I attended growing up (and I graduated in 2007 so this isn't that ancient history) my parents would just call the school office if something urgent came up, and the faculty would use the intercom system to page the room I was in. The teacher paused their lesson, acknowledged the request, and asked me to pack my things and head up to the front office, no questions asked. It was infrequent, but very…

Agree with you, but also, I feel like my imagination is lacking here. What kinds of "emergencies" even exist that require a child to resolve them? In all my K-12 education I feel like I think my parents only needed to contact me in class without prior arrangement maybe... once? Or twice? Zero times? Honestly I can't think of a single instance, I'm just assuming there must've been one I've forgotten about, certainly not an "emergency". Even other students being called from class seemed incredibly rare, and even in those cases I would have just assumed things were prearranged and they merely got a notification that the parent had come to pick them up, or something.

Re: What happens when a school bans smartphones? A complete transformation

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I mean, I agree that cell phones can cause interruptions in schools, but doing this at a place like Buxton compared to some of the public schools I’ve taught in, well, that’s a whole different story. “Buxton School is a private, coeducational, college preparatory, boarding and day school for grades 9–12 located in Williamstown, Massachusetts.“ I mean, it’s one thing to take away a kid, cell phone and offer them nothi…

There's also having to cater to the lowest common denominator. American students are required to go to school, and the catch-all is public school. Going to a private institute is a privilege, so if they don't like the policies they can choose to not go or ignore them and get expelled. If parents or students don't like the policies of their public school, they can complain to the board and... that's it.

Re: What happens when a school bans smartphones? A complete transformation

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Maybe I'm out of the loop... smartphones are allowed in the first place? When did that happen? In my high school, cell phones and ipods (at the time) were to be in lockers and turned off during the day. It was an insta-detention if you were seen using one.

What's wild to me is that almost all the individual devices a smartphone represents, not even counting the phone itself, would have been confiscated if used in class, for my generation (and I'm a millennial!) Flashlight? LOL, they might not even wait for you to use it, just assume there's no way you're not going to do something dumb with it, and take it. A handheld gaming device? Insta-yoink. Note-passing? Notes conf…

Hell, at my school you couldn't even listen to a CD at lunch. It boggles the mind.

Re: What happens when a school bans smartphones? A complete transformation

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By the time you build a basic phone, adding these features only costs a few cents more, so they include them to increase market share. These days phones are generally built from a SoC which already includes more capabilities than just calls and text, and run an operating system which already supports those capabilities. If you don’t want certain features they can be turned off (check how locked down you can make an i…

You’re not including the fact that they need some sort of wonky website for you to upload photos and add Podcasts. So it’s not just the phone they’re building but the whole infrastructure behind it. And if what you said is true, then why give these kids light phones in the first place. I’m almost wondering if someone from the light phone company has some connection with that school.

Sorry I’m not actually familiar with light phone, so I’ve had a look, and it is something sold that anyone can buy.

They’re trying to build something which people need to find at least a bit palatable. A phone without the ability to play music and podcasts would have very little chance of selling for $300, they’d be up against those senior-oriented big button phones which sell for incredibly cheap.

Edit: I’m also not seeing anyone say that their school allows only light phone

Re: What happens when a school bans smartphones? A complete transformation

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Great, but this is a private boarding school. I'm more concerned about the (over) use of Chromebooks in public schools. It's trivial for kids to tab over to Youtube or a gaming site in the middle of class. I would've done the same thing if I'd been given a laptop for 6 hours a day in school. When I see my kids trying to write math equations or use a virtual ruler/compass to do math homework, it really pains me. Let's…

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Re: What happens when a school bans smartphones? A complete transformation

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Maybe I'm out of the loop... smartphones are allowed in the first place? When did that happen? In my high school, cell phones and ipods (at the time) were to be in lockers and turned off during the day. It was an insta-detention if you were seen using one.

What's wild to me is that almost all the individual devices a smartphone represents, not even counting the phone itself, would have been confiscated if used in class, for my generation (and I'm a millennial!) Flashlight? LOL, they might not even wait for you to use it, just assume there's no way you're not going to do something dumb with it, and take it. A handheld gaming device? Insta-yoink. Note-passing? Notes conf…

This policy isnt about use in class. Afaik every school bans devices in class. The question is whether they should be allowed during lunch, in between classes, before/after school.

Re: What happens when a school bans smartphones? A complete transformation

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An emergency like active shooter, not your child had an accident. During active shooter situations, the school isn't going to call the parents of the students. They have other things to worry about. The kids are calling their parents directly.

I’m trying to figure out what useful action the parent is going to take in this situation.

Prents want to hear from their children if - as they imagine the scenario - their child is about to die.

Re: What happens when a school bans smartphones? A complete transformation

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What's wild to me is that almost all the individual devices a smartphone represents, not even counting the phone itself, would have been confiscated if used in class, for my generation (and I'm a millennial!) Flashlight? LOL, they might not even wait for you to use it, just assume there's no way you're not going to do something dumb with it, and take it. A handheld gaming device? Insta-yoink. Note-passing? Notes conf…

Hell, at my school you couldn't even listen to a CD at lunch. It boggles the mind.

> Hell, at my school you couldn't even listen to a CD at lunch. It boggles the mind.

That we accept such authoritarianism in schools? It certainly does.

Re: What happens when a school bans smartphones? A complete transformation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wild to me is that almost all the individual devices a smartphone represents, not even counting the phone itself, would have been confiscated if used in class, for my generation (and I'm a millennial!) Flashlight? LOL, they might not even wait for you to use it, just assume there's no way you're not going to do something dumb with it, and take it. A handheld gaming device? Insta-yoink. Note-passing? Notes conf…

This policy isnt about use in class. Afaik every school bans devices in class. The question is whether they should be allowed during lunch, in between classes, before/after school.

> Afaik every school bans devices in class.

They super, duper, do not :-(

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