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Creator is hoping to raise at least €1k for basic living expense

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Re: Creator is hoping to raise at least €1k for basic living expense

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pakitan wrote: post #78
RunSet wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Marketing is like juicing in athletics. It undermines the nominal reason for the enterprise's existence (competition) but once a single competitor begins practicing it, everyone else also has to- not to any benefit, but just to maintain their status quo.

One of the dumbest takes I've seen in a while. Good customer service is like juicing in athletics. You can get away just fine without it but once those pesky competitors stop yelling at their customers, you're kinda forced to do the same as well. Not to any benefit but just to maintain the status quo.

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Re: Creator is hoping to raise at least €1k for basic living expense

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Post by RunSet »

pakitan wrote: post #78
RunSet wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Marketing is like juicing in athletics. It undermines the nominal reason for the enterprise's existence (competition) but once a single competitor begins practicing it, everyone else also has to- not to any benefit, but just to maintain their status quo.

One of the dumbest takes I've seen in a while. Good customer service is like juicing in athletics. You can get away just fine without it but once those pesky competitors stop yelling at their customers, you're kinda forced to do the same as well. Not to any benefit but just to maintain the status quo.

Diligent readers will observe which aspect(s) of your attempted equivalence do not pertain.

Re: Creator is hoping to raise at least €1k for basic living expense

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Post by toldyouso2022 »

trevyn wrote: post #77
goat-throwaway wrote: post #42

As a team lead I have a capped budget that I can spend on tools/saas etc. Unfortunately I cant do a donation using this. Indie devs need to understand this, put up a pro plan and a checkout link that sends an invoice so that finance folks are ok. I hope he pulls through this, we need more indie software.

To clarify, a “paid plan” with zero benefits over free use is OK?

Put "faster support" and then don't do anything different (or maybe do, it's money after all)

Re: Creator is hoping to raise at least €1k for basic living expense

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Post by AYBABTME »

RunSet wrote: post #70
adrianmsmith wrote: post #63

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> Over $2M in revenue last year. Plausible also has a co-founder who does marketing, and is evidently very good at it. That's perhaps a more important factor in success than simply offering a paid plan. It looks like success was far from guaranteed before he was hired ($400 MRR and not growing). https://plausible.io/blog/open-source-saas#february-looking-...

Marketing is like juicing in athletics. It undermines the nominal reason for the enterprise's existence (competition) but once a single competitor begins practicing it, everyone else also has to- not to any benefit, but just to maintain their status quo.

Bringing attention to the existence of a thing isn't juicing, it's a necessary part of making something useful. If you build something that's potentially useful but no one ever hears of it, it isn't actually useful until someone hears of it.

Re: Creator is hoping to raise at least €1k for basic living expense

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Post by [deleted] »

RunSet wrote: post #82
pakitan wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the dumbest takes I've seen in a while. Good customer service is like juicing in athletics. You can get away just fine without it but once those pesky competitors stop yelling at their customers, you're kinda forced to do the same as well. Not to any benefit but just to maintain the status quo.

Diligent readers will observe which aspect(s) of your attempted equivalence do not pertain.

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Re: Creator is hoping to raise at least €1k for basic living expense

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Post by RunSet »

AYBABTME wrote: post #85
RunSet wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Marketing is like juicing in athletics. It undermines the nominal reason for the enterprise's existence (competition) but once a single competitor begins practicing it, everyone else also has to- not to any benefit, but just to maintain their status quo.

Bringing attention to the existence of a thing isn't juicing, it's a necessary part of making something useful. If you build something that's potentially useful but no one ever hears of it, it isn't actually useful until someone hears of it.

Honest, unpaid word of mouth might serve that function if not for the hired shouters and resultant ambient dishonesty.

Flipping the microscope, paid promotions distract from honest testimonials with no profit motive.

"We are improving your search results by prepending sales brochures."

Re: Creator is hoping to raise at least €1k for basic living expense

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Post by MadnessASAP »

RunSet wrote: post #82
pakitan wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the dumbest takes I've seen in a while. Good customer service is like juicing in athletics. You can get away just fine without it but once those pesky competitors stop yelling at their customers, you're kinda forced to do the same as well. Not to any benefit but just to maintain the status quo.

Diligent readers will observe which aspect(s) of your attempted equivalence do not pertain.

Unfortunately we don't live in the land of omniscient rational actors.

Being able to find customers and explain your products value to them, that being marketing, is an essential part of producing a product.

Re: Creator is hoping to raise at least €1k for basic living expense

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Post by Comma2976 »

smabie wrote: post #76
ZephyrBlu wrote: post #73

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It carries signal for being above average relative to the rest of the population, which is a low bar to begin with. It doesn't carry much signal for being great.

This is true, but any signal for future greatness is really weak I think.

I have found that I can take a single look and identify the best engineer and all around smartest guy in a room, often also the funniest, with the caveat that I need a mirror to do it.
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