The worst case scenario is something like Kessler Syndrome for information.
The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit
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#82Before ChatGPT, it was already full of bot-generated garbage; google any celebrity name and crappy sites are recommended with their net worth or relationship status.
This is the worst of it. All of googles' top suggestions, highlights, and whatever other garbage they put in the top two scroll pages, is just junk. Garbage. It's right perhaps 5% of the time for me. So not only do I have to hunt through their horrible search results, I have to hunt through junk they add on top of that. The sad part is, their buffoonery in aliasing words is 90% of the problem. No, I searched for Davi…
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#83The next Google's killer feature will be the ability to filter out AI generated content and promote content that is truly written by humans.
Oh how I yearn for the days when people's life stories were written into recipes -- by what I'm told were actual people.
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#84This has already become self-evident when trying to find images on google. I have seen whole pages of results which were AI-generated. At every level it becomes so hard to understand the motivations of my fellow man in regards to these problems, it quickly invites almost conspiratorial thinking. How could anyone be so stupid, how is anyone benefitting, from the obvious and apocalyptic poisoning of the well. Especially when in the case of AI-imagery, if I really wanted the amalgamized paste of generative output I could just make it myself. Some part of me actually finds it offensive, that someone would have the gall to waste storage on this easily replicable digital refuse.
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#85Makes me wonder how the advertisement industry is going to cope with the ever-growing influx of non-human users. What happens when the conversion rates plummet to zero? Maybe I'm cynic, but a completely walled-off / paid internet doesn't seem too unrealistic. You'll have to pay a subscription to every website you want to visit. On one side you have the open internet wasteland, filled to the brim with AI bots / genera…
AI solves that problem - it’s pretty easy to look at behavioral data and identify low v high quality users. Optimize towards what the AI thinks is users likely to convert and the problem Is solved.
What prevents this from becoming a game of cat and mouse? I mean, AIs can pretend to be high quality users, too, right?
I won't pretend to be able to look into the future with any kind of certainty, even if the scope is only a couple of years, but it wouldn't surprise me if we have created a way to make the dead internet theory real.
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#86To prevent the impending total enshittification of the Internet we'd probably need e.g. something like cryptographically signing human-generated content with some way of proving humanness.
Although nothing like this (or other solutions) is probably gonna materialize. The world, and especially the Internet, is driven by short-term commercial interests, and not-enshittifying things doesn't seem to make enough return on capital.
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#87Search has been steadily headed this direction for a long time, but recently (in just the last couple of months) I’ve started to notice a big uptick in obvious ChatGPT content in places that have otherwise been less egregiously SEO’d: StackOverflow answers, a real person’s personal Medium blog, comment sections on blogs that have good discussions, Github issues, etc.
Unfortunately I have to imagine this is only going to lead to more closed communities and less free sharing of knowledge.
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#88Makes me wonder how the advertisement industry is going to cope with the ever-growing influx of non-human users. What happens when the conversion rates plummet to zero? Maybe I'm cynic, but a completely walled-off / paid internet doesn't seem too unrealistic. You'll have to pay a subscription to every website you want to visit. On one side you have the open internet wasteland, filled to the brim with AI bots / genera…
AI solves that problem - it’s pretty easy to look at behavioral data and identify low v high quality users. Optimize towards what the AI thinks is users likely to convert and the problem Is solved.
Wouldn't it just become an arms race between the two? I.e. the ad companies trying to identify human/legit users the best they can, and the AI actors trying to mimic high quality users?
Having interacted with some bots, it def feels like we've gone from the stone age, to the sci-fi future, in only a couple of years.
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#89One aspect of the spread of LLMs is that we have lost a useful heuristic. Poor spelling and grammar used to be a signal used to quickly filter out worthless posts.
Unfortunately, this doesn't work at all for AI-generated garbage. Its command of the language is perfect - in fact, it's much better than that of most human beings. Anyone can instantly generate superficially coherent posts. You no longer have to hire a copywriter, as many SEO spammers used to do.
curl's struggle with bogus AI-generated bug reports is a good example of the problems this causes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38845878
This is only the beginning, it will get much worse. At some point it may become impossible to separate the wheat from the chaff.
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#90The next Google's killer feature will be the ability to filter out AI generated content and promote content that is truly written by humans.
There's too much value in undetectable AI for an AI detector to last long. Any technology behind a tool that can accurately detect it will used against itself: keep on trying until it can't detect its own output.