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Why Would I Buy This Useless, Evil Thing?

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Re: Why Would I Buy This Useless, Evil Thing?

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> What the people at rabbit are pitching is a device that logs into all your services like Uber and Expedia and then lets you interface with them all at once through an LLM and agents called "rabbits," by way of a little device that does not contain those actual apps.

So when A.I. gets hacked, it can start shit-posting on all your accounts? Sounds as useful as lastpass...

Re: Why Would I Buy This Useless, Evil Thing?

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Is AI going to make the important decisions like who the person should vote for and actually cast that vote too? Seems like a risk when the next generation will grow up outsourcing most of their decisions to AI and then need to figure out how to make the important ones on a reduced experience base. Definitely need to be brave for what is likely to come.

"Is AI going to make the important decisions like who the person should vote for and actually cast that vote too?" - Funny you mention that use case - I know for a fact that its being worked on right now (at least the "who to vote for" portion). The younger generation has allowed TikTok to talk them into seeing how many laundry pods they can eat ... so yeah things are going to get increasingly stupid most likely. To…

I'm sorry but this has been going on since the very first time people were allowed to vote on something. AI is not making this new. The new generation is not the _one_ being influenced (it's everyone).

Everyone everywhere is being fed nonsense from all sides (I mean metaphorically not politically), all the time. AI is making it cheaper, but it's not making it more possible.

Re: Why Would I Buy This Useless, Evil Thing?

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For those of you who argue that a device like this is useless I urge you to visit someone with Parkisons, essential tremors, ALS, rheumatoid arthritis, limb injuries etc as well as very low vision and observe the difficulty they have interacting with the vision + multi-touch interface of their phones.

I agree with you that generally people who complain about assistive devices do not consider any form of disability in their analysis. But the way that the consumer tech industry is shaped makes selling assistive devices really hard. Investors only want to invest in things that will be the next iPhone which makes actual assistive tech a really tough industry because the market is too small. So companies broaden try to broaden their reach but in order to do that they sacrifice the resilience, durability, reliability that those under-served communities really need. Most abled people can handle the 80% accuracy of a voice assistant, but for someone who needs an assistive device, that 20% failure rate can be brutal. The bar is so much higher to help those communities, and most companies wont bother.

Basically, if you want to make a medical assistive device, you kind of have to be all in on it, instead of trying to convince everyone that your device is the future of human-computer interaction (because its probably not and you'll just forget and ignore those communities)

Re: Why Would I Buy This Useless, Evil Thing?

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For those of you who argue that a device like this is useless I urge you to visit someone with Parkisons, essential tremors, ALS, rheumatoid arthritis, limb injuries etc as well as very low vision and observe the difficulty they have interacting with the vision + multi-touch interface of their phones.

A voice app might be ideal for a subset of these groups, but my experience observing others using voice interfaces has not been encouraging. Many people, especially the elderly, are hard of hearing, have an accent that is misunderstood by technology, and/or speak with a incompatible cadence. People also need time to process the response, but with voice it's happening at the device's timeframe, not the user's.

Re: Why Would I Buy This Useless, Evil Thing?

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For those of you who argue that a device like this is useless I urge you to visit someone with Parkisons, essential tremors, ALS, rheumatoid arthritis, limb injuries etc as well as very low vision and observe the difficulty they have interacting with the vision + multi-touch interface of their phones.

A voice app might be ideal for a subset of these groups, but my experience observing others using voice interfaces has not been encouraging. Many people, especially the elderly, are hard of hearing, have an accent that is misunderstood by technology, and/or speak with a incompatible cadence. People also need time to process the response, but with voice it's happening at the device's timeframe, not the user's.

I have a friend who is... slow.

He uses a dedicated GPS device in his car and it speaks directions very slowly. Seems to work for him.

Re: Why Would I Buy This Useless, Evil Thing?

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For those of you who argue that a device like this is useless I urge you to visit someone with Parkisons, essential tremors, ALS, rheumatoid arthritis, limb injuries etc as well as very low vision and observe the difficulty they have interacting with the vision + multi-touch interface of their phones.

Were people with disabilities mentioned as a target market?

I often hear on HN how Apple's lockdown of iOS is justified because grandma/grandpa need it that way. The only grandpa I've ever seen featured in an Apple product presentation is Tim Cook.

Re: Why Would I Buy This Useless, Evil Thing?

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There really isn't anything of substance in this article. Just a low-quality complaint about AI and AI devices with such hot-takes as: > You will notice that many of these tasks are just interacting with the lazy Silicon Valley dipshit treat ecosystem that already exists. Honestly I'm hesitant about AI devices as well but dismissing it entirely is very Luddite-like. Will these smart AI devices succeed? Who knows... I…

This site is a bunch of ex-Gawker, ex-Vox and ex-Vice people submitting articles en masse to places like Reddit and HN. Why would it have anything of substance?

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Re: Why Would I Buy This Useless, Evil Thing?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A voice app might be ideal for a subset of these groups, but my experience observing others using voice interfaces has not been encouraging. Many people, especially the elderly, are hard of hearing, have an accent that is misunderstood by technology, and/or speak with a incompatible cadence. People also need time to process the response, but with voice it's happening at the device's timeframe, not the user's.

I have a friend who is... slow. He uses a dedicated GPS device in his car and it speaks directions very slowly. Seems to work for him.

Thanks, I just remembered that there's a setting on my phone to control the speed of speech.

A GPS application seems like a tough place to use it, because it's time critical.

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