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Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#81

I am almost never a hater on people trying ambitious things, but man this is one of the most "doomed to fail" things I've ever seen. You've got absolutely insane market saturation by two major players that have some of the most advanced AI teams on the planet. Almost nobody is going to buy an "LLM-first phone," they will just wait for Apple or Google to put an LLM into their existing phone.

> but man this is one of the most "doomed to fail" things I've ever seen.

It will. I don't know which VC did the due diligence but the CEO once founded a scam company called RavenTech and the CTO just dropped out of CMU.

They used to be called CyberManufacture Co. and was selling NFTs. You see where this is going?

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#82

My hot take: ALL AI wearable companies should return their money to investors, and wait for the AR glasses by Apple. AR glasses are the ultimate form factor. And as much as I hate monopoly, Apple has the right app/dev ecosystem, and will make Siri work.

Absolutely correct.

The AR glasses race is between Apple and Meta Platforms.

This 'LLM-first phone' looks like a solution in search of a problem. But we'll see.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#83
post #22
post #4

Quick feedback if the founders are watching this: Please allow controls on your keynote video. The video production quality looks great. But I am not watching it if I don't know if it's a 30s one or a 30minute one.

A while ago I came across a website with a video player that gaslights you with a logarithmic progress bar. It had me fooled for a while into thinking the video has only 2-3 minutes left, before I finally clicked the pop-out button in Firefox and realized I was only 20% of the way through a 45 minute video.

Which website, if you don't mind saying? That's so hilariously vile I want a closer look!

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#85

I am almost never a hater on people trying ambitious things, but man this is one of the most "doomed to fail" things I've ever seen. You've got absolutely insane market saturation by two major players that have some of the most advanced AI teams on the planet. Almost nobody is going to buy an "LLM-first phone," they will just wait for Apple or Google to put an LLM into their existing phone.

> but man this is one of the most "doomed to fail" things I've ever seen. It will. I don't know which VC did the due diligence but the CEO once founded a scam company called RavenTech and the CTO just dropped out of CMU. They used to be called CyberManufacture Co. and was selling NFTs. You see where this is going?

A lot of VCs don't do any due diligence.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#86

One of the most impressive product launches I've seen recently. Looks almost too good to be true. Good luck to the team.

>Looks almost too good to be true.

That's because it is. Telling my phone to "edit images on Photoshop" (one of their examples) just doesn't seem feasible in the majority of interactions.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#87
The future is now. At least the 5 next minutes, but then it will keep changing and what you do with an intended expire time of at least a year will be badly obsolete and moldy in a month.

That is the problem doing end user hardware tied to a technology that is changing very fast and where most of the innovation may be out of your sight, being carried by your main competitors.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#88
post #9

Note that this is a Teenage Engineering collab! Pretty exciting and a crazy low price point for something with their name on it. This isn't a phone though right? The title seems wrong.

ok wow if that’s true the credibility just went way up. Interesting.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#89
post #9

Note that this is a Teenage Engineering collab! Pretty exciting and a crazy low price point for something with their name on it. This isn't a phone though right? The title seems wrong.

On their hiring page they are looking for VoIP experience so maybe maybe a VoIP device.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#90
post #16

My hot take: ALL AI wearable companies should return their money to investors, and wait for the AR glasses by Apple. AR glasses are the ultimate form factor. And as much as I hate monopoly, Apple has the right app/dev ecosystem, and will make Siri work.

Vision Pro isn't really supposed to be used outside.

Or while moving.
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