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Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

#81
post #7

The unfortunate thing is that they can change it at anytime. So you basically have to avoid airlines that have the MAX in their fleet, such as Southwest.

Would be cool if you can get a refundable flight and cancel last minute if it switches to a MAX.

It almost seems it should be regulated. But it also seems the regulations should have prevent a shitshow of an airplane being deployed.

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

#82
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's true, but the question might be whether you personally should be worried if you find yourself on a 737 Max.

It doesn't matter. Nothing will change unless enough people begin voting with their feet.

Many airlines allow same day changes. If everyone scheduled on a Max reschedules for alternative flights consistently, they'll get the message soon enough. Refusing to board a Boeing plane at all is perfectly reasonable at this stage.

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

#83
post #37
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its appalling safety record [0] thus far makes it one of the least safe airplanes in modern history. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_MAX#Accidents_and_i...

That is really bad misinformation statistically speaking. The "Max" aircraft (all variants) have literally many millions of miles of safe flight. If anything, it is the most scrutinized commercial aircraft in all of history.

I'm not going to comment on how it compares to other planes but it's certainly significantly less safe than the previous generations of 737:

> a fatal accident rate of four accidents per million flights, whereas the previous Boeing 737 generations averaged 0.2 fatal accidents per million flights

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

#85
post #26

Are you less safe on a 737 MAX than driving to the airport in a car? Genuinely curious, I’m trying to understand if this whole saga is statistically significant.

I've heard a lot of people say this in these comment threads, and I think this glosses over the actual issue: safety is getting worse, not better or even staying the same. So it's MORE statistically significant than it was. The trend is heading the wrong way. Air safety going down is a trend you want to stop ASAP. Not wait around until it's just as dangerous as something else like driving your car.

[citation needed]

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

#86
post #26

Are you less safe on a 737 MAX than driving to the airport in a car? Genuinely curious, I’m trying to understand if this whole saga is statistically significant.

Voting with your wallet is a thing. It's the only feedback that matters to these people.

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

#87

A lot of people don't realize that the fuselage of this plane isn't even made by Boeing, it's made by Spirit AeroSystems which also makes components for Airbus. We don't really know who to blame here until the investigation concludes.

True, but as integrator, Boeing is still responsible for ensuring the quality of the final product.

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

#88

Why 737 Max in particular?

There was a recent blowout of a door, and now several problems were found in subsequent MAX planes. This is part of a larger saga with faults found in MAX planes that have caused some crashes, and the longstanding quality issues with Boeing. Some previous discussions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38917820 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38893909 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38889774

Yes, but those parts in question exist only on the MAX 9, which is no longer flying. Right now the answer to: "Is my plane a 737 MAX 9?" is "no, it isn't"

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

#90
post #41

For the most reliable info, you can look up your flight number in Flightaware or Flightradar 24 -- those use actual flight plan data, so will take into account any last minute aircraft changes.

>those use actual flight plan data, so will take into account any last minute aircraft changes. But at that point it's too late. I doubt people are that afraid of 737 Max that they'll cancel a flight (and forfeit their ticket) over it.

> doubt people are that afraid of 737 Max that they'll cancel a flight (and forfeit their ticket) over it

Nobody rational will. But there are plenty of people with an understandable fear of flying who will create a customer-service kerfuffle over it. On the margin that might not do anything. But in aggregate it could affect how the airlines negotiate settlements from Boeing.

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