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Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

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> All three GeForce RTX 40 SUPER Series GPUs are faster than their predecessors It's weird that they're only comparing the new cards to the RTX 30's and 20's, and not the "v1" 40's. I assume the 4080 SUPER is faster than the 4080 (based on name?) but it seems cheaper and there's absolutely no comparison data

This was what I came to comment. Very strange. This article https://beebom.com/nvidia-rtx-4080-4070-ti-super-gpu-specs-r... says "the RTX 4070 Ti Super is up to 10% faster than the non-Super 4070 Ti on average" So, on average, up to 10% faster, yeah seems pretty incremental.

Im holding out for the "the RTX 6090 Ti Super MAX XXXtreme 197Hz Mr. Manager"

Ive a lot of AMd Nvidia machines - two high-end gaming machines.. the naming conventions of Nvidia cards are just odd to me and I can tell what anything actually means..

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#85
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With the current generation of text and image generators, 24GB is the sweet spot

I wouldn't be shocked if the 5090 is also the only one with 24GB. Seems like NVidia is trying their hardest to suppress memory increases.

I think it strongly depends on whether 24gbit GDDR7 is ready to go by that point or not. If so, they'll do 36GB.

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

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Considering the poor generational performance uplift the original 4000 series cards had vs the 3000 series - it almost seems like these super variants are what nVidia should have originally launched. :-/

Poor performance uplift? The 4080 is significantly faster than the 3090 with much lower power consumption!

It's not always faster than the 3090, let alone "significantly", except in very specific resolutions and games.

here's a review from a traditionally pro intel and nvidia outlet: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-f...

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

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With CPUs I'd say skip more than 1. I've been doing every 4 generations, and given how poorly Intel's 14th gen performed, I'm waiting another still. The improvements are very small in this space right now, for the most part.

Yeah I'm doing totally fine with an i7-9700K, although having 32gb sure helps. 2060Super GPU is starting to feel dated though!

My own 9700k is starting to creak a bit, but that was my own mistake buying a 144hz monitor.

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#88
Hoping this drives down the price for the 7800XT or older used models in the near future.

That being said, these look competent enough, just stingy with VRAM still making them less desirable for longer use (4+ years) in either playing games or training models.

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

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This was what I came to comment. Very strange. This article https://beebom.com/nvidia-rtx-4080-4070-ti-super-gpu-specs-r... says "the RTX 4070 Ti Super is up to 10% faster than the non-Super 4070 Ti on average" So, on average, up to 10% faster, yeah seems pretty incremental.

The big difference with the 4070 Ti Super is that it's using the AD103 chip (with a full 256-bit memory bus and 16GB of VRAM) found in the 4080, which is a huge leap over the AD104 chip found in the 4070 Ti (non-Super), which only touts a 192-bit memory bus and 12GB of VRAM. While the TFLOPS of the Super variant does only see a ~10% increase as you note, memory bandwidth jumps by 42% and the memory capacity jumps by…

For running AI models etc the 4070ti is the best value of the bunch by far. Memory size and bandwidth are the most important things in that order (which makes the 4050, er, 4060ti 16GB a weak card)

Ergo, there's a decent chance it won't sell for MSRP.

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#90

All I want is a low-power passively-cooled replacement for my aging 5GB Quadro P2000 that doesn't crash out while running the new Lightroom denoise algorithms. None of these seem likely choices in that area, sigh.

Is it a noise issue? If you take a newer open-air style card and lower the power limit it should be fairly quiet and still much faster than what you've got. You can also tinker with limiting the clock speed and maybe get even lower, enough that you could take the fans off.
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