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Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

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Post by _ph_ »

justrealist wrote: post #3

Tuna (horrific overfishing) and octopus (intelligence) are the two animals I won't eat.

Another important candidate are shark fins. Not only are sharks of many kinds endangered, cutting of their fins and tossing the still living shark back in the ocean is especially cruel and wasteful.

But considering that most fish species are endangered and basically all of them are contaminated by plastic, there is good reason to avoid seafood altogether. Unless perhaps if you know that it has been fished sustainably from a local stable population. Which still wouldn't change the issues with the plastic.

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Post by soco »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #69
s_dev wrote: post #23

I'd be in favour of removing meat subsidies. If the 'true' price of steak or a burger was ten times higher people would eat it for special occasions and not every day with every meal. It's telling and hypocritical how many meat eating 'libertarians' are in favour of government handouts to preserve their food eating habits rather than letting the market do it's work. I'm a meat eater but I'll concede that those subsid…

Meat subsidies? There are programs to support smaller suppliers, increase competition. Not directly make beef cheaper. It's something like a billion a year? Sounds like a lot; your part was $2.50 in taxes. Not very significant in a trillion-dollar budget. Removing these programs would probably have the opposite effect: letting competition languish would leave one or two large players, who could set the prices anywher…

The point of the comment wasn't the meat prices, but the preservation of the environment. Higher prices will mean less consumption which will mean less production so a environment win, and still room for a small but also expensive producer or two. Unless the duopoly will want higher production and decrease the prices so we will land in the same place, environment-wise. Or am I getting the subsidies point wrong?

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Post by soco »

ryandrake wrote: post #41
s_dev wrote: post #23

I'd be in favour of removing meat subsidies. If the 'true' price of steak or a burger was ten times higher people would eat it for special occasions and not every day with every meal. It's telling and hypocritical how many meat eating 'libertarians' are in favour of government handouts to preserve their food eating habits rather than letting the market do it's work. I'm a meat eater but I'll concede that those subsid…

I like the motivation, but I don't think it could work in practice. Government never seems to be able to effectively "crack down on commercial X but allow individual to do X". People are too crafty and corporations hire lots of lawyers. They will always find a way to follow the letter of the law and get around the spirit of the law. Suddenly, there's an army of "individuals with fishing rods that are totally not empl…

Gig fishing economy disruptors that is, all VC app-based.

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forward1 wrote: post #65
justrealist wrote: post #3

Tuna (horrific overfishing) and octopus (intelligence) are the two animals I won't eat.

The speciesism in this comment is profound, as if you have some empirical evidence an octupus is more intelligent than, say, a pig; or whether a creature's lack of ability to reason (versus feel pain and suffer) gives way to treat it cruelly.

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Post by dpkirchner »

tastyfreeze wrote: post #63
tw04 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>That is something that can be done at a local level without global cooperation. You're assuming some foreign operator won't come to your local waters to illegally fish. China has shown they will fish literally anywhere they can get away with it. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/26/world/asia/ch...

That is what a military is for...

Aka global cooperation by force.

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Post by staringback »

thih9 wrote: post #46
SeanAnderson wrote: post #22

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> Can’t get so fat and unhealthy. Why can't someone get as fat and unhealthy with a vegan diet? I'm friends with vegans who eat a LOT of processed foods - Gardein crispy tenders, Carl's Jr. for Beyond Burgers, etc. > And far healthier since most vegans and vegetarians live long and healthy lives compared to other groups. How much of this is attributable to a specific diet vs highlighting that those who care about wha…

> Why can't someone get as fat and unhealthy with a vegan diet? Don’t know about “unhealthy”, but “fat” is actually less likely, according to a research: “our results suggest that self-identified semivegetarian, lactovegetarian, and vegan women have a lower risk of overweight and obesity than do omnivorous women. The advice to consume more plant foods and less animal products may help individuals control their weight…

I'm not listening to a "scientific article" written by someone who doesn't know the difference between less and fewer.

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Post by neonnoodle »

I started casually watching the reality TV series "Deadliest Catch" about 15 years ago, and became a regular viewer since then. In that time span:

- the amount of Bering Sea ice has dropped significantly

- the amount of 100-year storms has increased

- crab numbers have decreased

- crab seasons have been outright canceled due to major population collapses

- crab that remain are seeking deeper/colder water

As much dissembling as people want to do about climate change, you can see with your own two eyes the difference between season 1 and now. They almost never mention climate change on the show. They complain a lot about how "regulations" are destroying the fishermen's livelihood.

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Post by staringback »

beacon294 wrote: post #45
wkat4242 wrote: post #14

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> Can’t get so fat and unhealthy. Nah you can eat just as bad vegan food. Most vegan burgers are just fat patties much worse than those made of lean beef. As with any type of food it depends on the choices you make within the class and the amount of it. I think the reason vegans and vegetarians are healthier is mainly because they are more conscious of what they're eating in the first place. And depending on where yo…

They have lower saturated fat than lean beef, good protein content and blend, and overall less strain on the organs.

Saturated fat from beef is one of the healthiest things to consume.
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