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Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by winter_blue »

nostromo wrote: post #66

Wow, this moronic bill passed nearly unanimously. It's nice to see bipartisanship on display in North Carolina when it comes to the stupidest ideas. > Any commercial entity that knowingly and intentionally publishes or distributes material harmful to minors on the internet from a website that contains a substantial portion of such material shall... That's a ridiculously vague standard. Google and Bing both distribute…

I guess a lawsuit could be filed arguing that showing a minor a video recording of loving consensual sex between two adults is not harmful.

Perhaps one could even argue that it is beneficial, by helping dispel sexual repression or discomfort around sexual matters.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by defrost »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #24
slibhb wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you extend this policy to "consuming a video/image/text message," that would be dystopian. But this is about porn. Maybe it'll be a slippery slope but I doubt it. I wouldn't vote for this policy but I get it. Lots of people don't want kids watching porn. And it's not just social conservativism, people across the political spectrum think porn is addictive, psychologically damaging, and leads to sexual dysfunction.

> If you extend this policy to "consuming a video/image/text message," that would be dystopian. But this is about porn Eho decides what is porn? There is portln on Twitter, will all of twitter be monitored? Kids suicides inceased 10x because they arent alliwed to go outside any more and have no friends - if we actually cared about kuds we'd be solving that. Western boomers grew up in a better world than kids today “O…

> Kids suicides inceased 10x because ...

What country, which ages, and when?

That didn't happen in either the USofA nor Australia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Crude_US_suicide_rate_by_...

https://viz.aihw.gov.au/t/Public/views/CoD_Tableaus_2022/S6a...

as "10x" would imply suicides per 100,000 rose from ~10 per 100K to ~100 per 100K (depending on country | age bracket, etc).

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by insickness »

shagmin wrote: post #51
silisili wrote: post #9

How do sites that have porn but not their main purpose respond, or do they have to? Reddit and Twitter come to mind, I've stumbled across a lot of weird stuff on both.

The law says it applies if more than 30% of the content is adult content. So won't apply to reddit or Twitter at least but I could see this still leaving plenty of gray area for other sites.

I wonder if these adult sites could host a ton of non-adult content in order to get below the 30% mark. There used to be a similar law in (I think it was) NYC stores. To combat this, adult bookstores would stock tons of non-porn titles which weren't even really for sale.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by aryonoco »

thinkerswell wrote: post #12
mc32 wrote: post #3

Ignoring other (obvious) issues, it’ll be interesting to see how people respond. Do they seek different entertainment? Does it lead to more or less socially desirable/adjusted behavior?

Generally you get more of what you subsidize, so my bet is that this will lead to less porn consumption, an absolutely massive win.

I take it that you're gravely misinformed.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

Gigachad wrote: post #76
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's in fact a Stable Diffusion model trained on most of e621. Uh not sure what HN's linking rules are, but look up Furtastic. Though I understand and respect furrydom, I'm not a furry... But in its niche of generating anthropomorphic people, I still find the model to be incredible. Its got to be one of the most extensively trained, tagged and coherent SD 1.5 finetunes out there, which doesn't even surprise me TBH…

I'm not usually impressed by generated images. But the furry models are astounding. Right now my best signal for something being AI is that it's incredibly detailed by doesn't have a signature.

Yeah.

As a seperate note, I saw another HNer blog post specifically complain about AI generated furry art as a destroyer of talented furry artists... I get the point, but still have mixed feelings.

If some AI is so incredible at an artistic niche (not just furry), isn't that amazing? If artists are not economically free to pursue new styles and representations the AI doesn't "know," I feel thats a larger problem with society and art platforms, not AI specifically.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by dc3k »

thinkerswell wrote: post #12
mc32 wrote: post #3

Ignoring other (obvious) issues, it’ll be interesting to see how people respond. Do they seek different entertainment? Does it lead to more or less socially desirable/adjusted behavior?

Generally you get more of what you subsidize, so my bet is that this will lead to less porn consumption, an absolutely massive win.

> an absolutely massive win

For who?

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by harry8 »

mjevans wrote: post #14

What if you had to show Government ID whenever you entered a grocery store, a library, a movie theater? What if you were tracked each time you consumed a video, a still image, an audio clip, or even a text message? What if the government kept a record of any or all of those checks? What if they arranged for third parties to commercialize that data so they could 'legally' end-run any restriction on domestic spying wit…

>What if you had to show Government ID whenever you entered a grocery store, a library, a movie theater? What if you were tracked each time you consumed a video, a still image, an audio clip, or even a text message?

  1) entered a grocery store - No, at least not since peak-pandemic. Face recognition?
  2) a library - Yes, to borrow books or on demand from security. Needed govt. id to get a library card.
  3) movie theatre - Yes, mine no longer takes cash.
  4)  tracked each time you consumed a video - Yes. Every single streaming service.
  5)  a still image - Everything on the web. Every book w/ photos I buy. Can hypothetically still look at books we own, was given, found, lent, pirated or stole in privacy.
  6) Audio - spotify, youtube etc.
  7) a text message - Your phone IS a device you pay for and maintain which is designed and regulated to spy on you. Signal is the only possibility for any privacy at all here.
>This is the sort of dystopia that librarians and others focused on liberty have been fighting for what seems like forever.

How is that fight going, do you think?

A Turnkey totalitarian state exists, who is going to turn that key?

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by insickness »

I'm in Virginia and these sites are also being blocked. On Pornhub:

> As you may know, your elected officials in Virginia are requiring us to verify your age before allowing you access to our website. While safety and compliance are at the forefront of our...

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by nimbius »

From a political standpoint its sort of wild the bills principal sponsor --Amy Galey-- mentions absolutely nothing of it in her 2024 campaign site. You'd imagine championing child safety would be at the top of your list of achievements. nope. parenting and nutrition.

https://amygaley.com/#issues

this was clearly meant to be a political stunt leading into the 2024 election year to make the democratic governor Roy Cooper appear as though he didnt care about children. No respectable republican voter would ever dream of submitting to a government database for something like this.

Cooper called the bluff, as did most of the minority Democratic legislature in the house and senate. i doubt this law will survive past the second quarter of 2024.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by schneems »

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #75
nostromo wrote: post #66

Wow, this moronic bill passed nearly unanimously. It's nice to see bipartisanship on display in North Carolina when it comes to the stupidest ideas. > Any commercial entity that knowingly and intentionally publishes or distributes material harmful to minors on the internet from a website that contains a substantial portion of such material shall... That's a ridiculously vague standard. Google and Bing both distribute…

Perhaps its an example of horseshoe theory? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory US State legislators tend to be more politically extreme these days, AFAIK. Or just good old "save the children," I guess? Where either party is afraid to make themselves look bad.

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