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GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Re: GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Post by gnicholas »

jrsj wrote: post #49

What is even the point of the Blazer EV if it is essentially the same vehicle at the Cadillac Lyriq at essentially the same price? When they announced this thing they said it would be $45k, instead its almost $60k just like the Lyriq. Not sure if there's a difference in quality of materials, sound deadening, etc. It is technically a couple thousand cheaper, but it's also made in Mexico with non-union labor instead of…

> They're still claiming the Equinox EV will be available at $35k mid 2024 but I'm highly skeptical of that at this point, unless they plan on selling them at a loss.

I was curious about this also. It's a nice-looking vehicle, and the pricing does seem pretty aspirational. I figured they will force you to go up a trim level or two to get basic safety features like a blind spot monitor, or common features like dynamic cruise control.

Even though it won't have CarPlay, I would consider getting one if the price of a decent version is close to $35k.

Re: GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Post by gnicholas »

lobsterthief wrote: post #71
pengaru wrote: post #25

Folks you're killing me with the comments re: Blazer naming as if it's some new thing introduced for the EV. The Blazer line has been part of GM since 1969: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Blazer

I think the point is they could’ve chosen a different name with fewer EV/fire connotations. Like a new name, or reuse another retired model name like Ford does all the time.

There's a lot of goodwill built up in the name, and the new vehicle looks a bit like the old ones. This isn't like an EV Mustang, which has precious little to do with its namesake...

Re: GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Post by dzhiurgis »

panopticon wrote: post #79
jm4 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla is the only one I’ve ever had that occasionally crashes, but it’s still so much better than the other stuff out there. I have had decent experiences with Toyota and Ford. Although their systems are boring and old, they work reliably and consistently.

Coincidentally the infotainment system in my new F150 has crashed more than my partner’s Tesla. But I really hate the lack of buttons in the Tesla. It feels so incredibly unsafe to have to look at the screen to turn heated seats on. And I think I like CarPlay more than Tesla’s infotainment setup these days.

> It feels so incredibly unsafe to have to look at the screen to turn heated seats on.

You can always wait until a stop at intersection or highways while on autopilot or use auto or use voice command.

People use touchscreens all the time to scroll media, yet climate controls are somehow sacred.

Re: GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Post by arghnoname »

valine wrote: post #7

GM is not equipped to build software, and that’s okay. What’s not okay is that GM lacks the basic self awareness to recognize their own limitations. The schadenfreude is strong with this one.

They hired some Apple people in the past year, so well after it was probably clear internally that this was going badly. Even if the new employees do everything right, I would assume that it will be difficult to graft a software culture into GM's culture. If they legitimately think it is imperative and have buy in and real support from the very top, it's possible, but if they think it's something to tack on it will never work.

Re: GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Post by MrMan »

technofiend wrote: post #39

For whatever reason GM also ended sale of their popular Chevy Bolt platform. It wasn't an amazing car and I'm sure suffered from its own faults as well, but at least from reading reports about the car nothing like what the Ultim-based vehicles are seeing now! Also it was cheaper than the Blazer, so I'm sure less profitable for GM but that made it popular to consumers. Not to mention it still qualified for an EV tax c…

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Re: GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Post by jvandonsel »

gpapilion wrote: post #73
protastus wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's something missing from this narrative that GM is not disclosing. It's very rare for a manufacturer to pause sales of a product that works well, is well received and in demand. GM has hyped their EV strategy and the Bolt is the one thing that's real and good. Automakers redesign cars all the time without pausing sales. Automakers work on the new design in parallel, then switch over and call it a new model year…

Isn’t it well known they had major issues with the battery design and 2 or 3 recalls related to it. If i remember correctly one of them include a warning not to park inside due to the risk of a fire.

And the root cause was LG, not GM.

Re: GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Post by [deleted] »

MobileVet wrote: post #58
technofiend wrote: post #39

For whatever reason GM also ended sale of their popular Chevy Bolt platform. It wasn't an amazing car and I'm sure suffered from its own faults as well, but at least from reading reports about the car nothing like what the Ultim-based vehicles are seeing now! Also it was cheaper than the Blazer, so I'm sure less profitable for GM but that made it popular to consumers. Not to mention it still qualified for an EV tax c…

Clearly personal preference… but I would say the Bolt is a very strong commuter option. I originally thought I would buy an Kia EV6, then a Genesis GV60. In the end I bought a Bolt and I absolutely love it. It is 85% of the car I wanted for 40% of the price of the others. It isn’t plush, but it has every modern safety system and everything is where you expect it (vs the toys / Tesla) Highly recommend it for an around…

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Re: GM halts sales of its new Chevy Blazer EV amid reports of software issues

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Post by nothercastle »

NewJazz wrote: post #77
protastus wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's something missing from this narrative that GM is not disclosing. It's very rare for a manufacturer to pause sales of a product that works well, is well received and in demand. GM has hyped their EV strategy and the Bolt is the one thing that's real and good. Automakers redesign cars all the time without pausing sales. Automakers work on the new design in parallel, then switch over and call it a new model year…

The story I heard is that they needed to retool an existing factory for new ultium vehicles, and they were prioritizing production of more profitable vehicles (which I guess they consider the Cadillac Lyriq, Blazer, and Hummer to be). Supposedly they will be producing Bolts before the end of 2024. So a gap of about one year, with a much better specced platform... If only they can get the reliability of the platform r…

Reliability problems are mostly related to wiring and systems integration. Going to be hard to fix problems too expensive to fix actually
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