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Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims

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For sure. And you know what will be disgusting to witness? A lot of the ones supporting this evil, will claim to have been against the injustice all along. Plain lies. Like the German NAZIs did after the Holocaust. I wonder how that will work out for them, considering the quasi permanent nature of internet history.

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That war is a racket where children's lives are acceptable collateral.

No I'm pretty sure that there's some deeper meaning, but I'm not sure exactly what. For example, what exactly is meant by "Viral content? Fuck this"? Is this Guardian article the "viral content"? Or the Human Rights Watch posts? Or what? What exactly is being criticized?

I'm seeing a bunch of techies use terms normally utilized for TikTok dances, and I'm just saying maybe we should stop. What deeper meaning do you need?

Bombing of Palestinian children is what I'm being critical of.

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I'm not sure it's possible to look at what Israel is doing and say it's not terror. So, charitably, I guess you're saying the IDF is not an organization?

Is every country in the world wrong? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_g... doesn't have a single country that calls the IDF a terror organization.

Countries are careful about calling other countries terror organisations. That's a weak argument. To convince me, you have to argue that their actions aren't terroristic.

Usually, you can argue that a state's actions aren't "terrorism" because most definitions of "terrorism" involve the requirement that the action is illegal. But saying that the IDF is regularly committing war crimes isn't even controversial at this point. So what exactly separates their illegal actions intended to instil terror from all the other terror organizations?

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Heres the vidéo where Netanyahou brags that his strategy is to hurt palestinian (civilians) as hard as possible Into submission, and that hé was negociating the peace accords in Bad faith : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=8997844...

Im not sure what better fits the définition of terrorism for you

At thé end of the day most israelis would be fine with a two state solution. This guy and other religious extremists liké Bennet have taken hostage the israeli people

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Given your stance, if a murderer runs in your house then you'll understand when the police break the door down and kill you and everyone inside right?

If a murderer lives in your house for decades and you knew they were a murderer and were plotting more murders but you did nothing to root them out yourself, maybe you’re an accessory. It probably doesn’t justify the death penalty, but it also doesn’t help.

I would note that no one in Palestine has chosen for Hamas to be there. They are more like a criminal organization with populist propaganda, with a focus on smuggling and sanctions evasion as a business model. Even the election they “won,” they really didn’t in the conventional sense, and there hasn’t been another in 10 years.

I’m not taking sides, as someone raised Quaker and a later life Buddhist, I know everyone killing others is wrong and there’s no excuse for everything horrible that’s happening. But no one listens to the guy in the corner saying “could we just stop killing each other?”

But it’s absurd to say that somehow Hamas is a legitimate democratically elected government and the populace has had any say in the things they’ve done in their name.

Hamas decided to do October 7 assuming Israel would do something awful so they could martyr their own people for propaganda purposes. They didn’t ask anyone’s permission to volunteer the lives of the 20,000 people killed, nor the horrors of October 7.

Israel played directly, and in greater magnitude, into their stated goals of inciting Israel into atrocities. The goal isn’t to defeat Israel militarily but to destroy its international standing and by proxy the US. They wanted to end the idea of a two state solution forever and make the only options destruction of Israel or genocide of Palestinians.

The general populace of Palestine has no desire to be wiped out, they don’t want to live like this. They want to live a normal life like everyone does. But they don’t get to choose if Hamas controls their fate. Sitting in a western democracy it seems inconceivable that you can’t choose your government. But most of the world can’t, and they are at the mercy of whoever has the most guns and psychopaths to hold them.

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Even the Pope called them terrorists. They were literally funded by two terrorists organizations (Irgun and Lehi). And over the past 70 years their main occupation has been the terrorizing of the few remaining Palestinians. How more plainly terroristic do you have to be? And now they are here on HN funding posts like yours trying to justify the mass murder of children and women as a form of collective punishment. May…

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It is not the words of one "priest", but of all the Catholics in the compound. And I love how you appended "Palestinian" to try to discredit him, as if a Palestinian's word is not worth much, but the word of the IDF, who have been caught lying through their teeth about almost everything that has happened on and since 7/10 is. And you are wrong. The compound hosts more than just Palestinian Christians. Catholics from around the world serve in Gaza.

And how is that justified? The murder of two old women in a Catholic church compound, by a sniper no less. And one of them was murdered while trying to retrieve the body of her mother.

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I'm not sure it's possible to look at what Israel is doing and say it's not terror. So, charitably, I guess you're saying the IDF is not an organization?

Is every country in the world wrong? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_g... doesn't have a single country that calls the IDF a terror organization.

Taiwan isnt a country too? Geopolitics leads to some crazy claims of truth. It couldn't be more clear that there is extreme pressure for states to support Israel, especially due to USA's position. Argument from authority is rightfully considered a logical fallacy

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By what definition?

For Hamas being one: basically the entire Western world (Canada, US, UK, EU, Japan, Australia) has declared them as one.

For the IDF not being one: literally no country, not even Iran, has declared them as one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_g...

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What was it we used to hear? Their platform, their rules? The fact is people are unprincipled and will either complain about free speech or will clamor for it, or complain about censorship or clamor for it depending on point of view. I wish people were principled and stood on principle and not what dog they have in a fight.

The platforms are large enough now that there is a public interest in the moderation decisions that they make. Like a utility or a mail carrier or an internet service provider, if you reach a certain size in an industry that tends towards a natural monopoly, then the public has an interest in regulating your behavior towards neutrality.
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