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Re: Text-to-CAD

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Post by thworp »

swells34 wrote: post #73
BillyTheMage wrote: post #54

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I'm inclined to believe that the people who make proprietary software are the ones with the "wrong worldview", if there is such a thing. People with morals are not the ones at fault for making the world parasitic to its core. You say you had to stop with the open source because you needed money. That has nothing to do with open source, and everything to do with the fact that you're not allowed to access the basic nec…

>the fact that you're not allowed to access the basic necessities of life if you don't allow yourself to be exploited for profit. This is the underpinning of capitalism. Some people speculate that denying basic necessities is the only way to ensure that common people will be productive enough to make the wealthy people wealthier.

No it is the underpinning of civilization.

Funnily enough, in the eastern block almost everyone had to work. But as long as the wealthy people call themselves general secretary or commissar and talk about Marx it's all good, right?

Re: Text-to-CAD

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Post by aredox »

frontiersummit wrote: post #42

As someone who has used 3D CAD professionally for decades, I must confess I had low expectations for this tool. My expectations have been greatly exceeded, and there is real value in something like this. The value is not in creating models of new/custom parts, but in quickly generating models of standard parts such as pipe fittings, bolts, connectors, and stuff you could buy from a catalog. Prompts like "m4 cap screw…

The value of a ML model for this is fairly low, though. An expert model, with fuzzy matching if needed, is going to be far more reliable for "standard" parts.

The only value of a "generative" model would be for "creating models of new/custom parts", but that's what you explicitely say it isn't for...

This ML/AI fad is looking more and more like the blockchain fad: redoing exactly what we already know how to do with boring technologies, but repackadged in a shinier coat hiding worse results, and the unproven promise of just-around-the-corner progress to suck in investors.

Re: Text-to-CAD

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Post by iancmceachern »

kragen wrote: post #79
iancmceachern wrote: post #78

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Got it. Same question, what are the products you are referring to?

i just answered that in the comment you're replying to, so you have exhausted the presumption of good faith, and this is my last comment in this thread

I'm trying to get at what CAD program outputs you would want that aren't drawings, etc. I'm not aware of any. I'm trying to get at what true application Blender had which you are referencing.

If you don't want a drawing or a manufacturable thing out of your CAD program then its likely not CAD your doing but graphics design or 3d modeling, not design. This is fine, but itsba different thing.

I was trying to parse through that with you...

Re: Text-to-CAD

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Post by wenebego »

thworp wrote: post #81
swells34 wrote: post #73

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>the fact that you're not allowed to access the basic necessities of life if you don't allow yourself to be exploited for profit. This is the underpinning of capitalism. Some people speculate that denying basic necessities is the only way to ensure that common people will be productive enough to make the wealthy people wealthier.

No it is the underpinning of civilization. Funnily enough, in the eastern block almost everyone had to work. But as long as the wealthy people call themselves general secretary or commissar and talk about Marx it's all good, right?

Yes, our current civilization is capitalist. And no, obviously not.

Re: Text-to-CAD

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Post by contingencies »

dugite-code wrote: post #80
iancmceachern wrote: post #36

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They're one and the same. We use 3d CAD to generate 2d drawings, that's the standard way 3d cad is used, to generate 2d drawings that let you make stuff. Many people get 3d modeling like for games or computer graphics confused with CAD, which is different. CAD is fundamentally 2d and 3d in nature both, as a function of how we use it to make parts

I'm actually in the building construction industry and CAD generated 2D vector documentation is still the standard go-to for workshop and design drawings. Especially when it comes to contractors as-installed drawings. Some work had moved to 3D BIM modeling but often you'll still end up with 2D for a multitude of reasons and unless something drastically changes I don't see 2D work disappearing any time soon. Specifica…

Rest assured, if the fabricator is in demand you are being charged a premium for turning up with a PDF instead of a 3D model they can auto-convert to toolpaths.

Re: Text-to-CAD

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Post by dugite-code »

contingencies wrote: post #86
dugite-code wrote: post #80

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I'm actually in the building construction industry and CAD generated 2D vector documentation is still the standard go-to for workshop and design drawings. Especially when it comes to contractors as-installed drawings. Some work had moved to 3D BIM modeling but often you'll still end up with 2D for a multitude of reasons and unless something drastically changes I don't see 2D work disappearing any time soon. Specifica…

Rest assured, if the fabricator is in demand you are being charged a premium for turning up with a PDF instead of a 3D model they can auto-convert to toolpaths.

You're not going to be using toolpaths with a building.

Re: Text-to-CAD

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Post by huytersd »

ben_w wrote: post #30
huytersd wrote: post #6

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It’s trivial to take a 2D image DALLE3 or midjourney generate and vectorize it (illustrator etc.)

If you're getting your engineering plans from Midjourney etc., something is likely to explode.

Depends on what it is. I use DALLE3/midjourney to give me ideas for furniture pieces all the time and then build them. This is obviously not as complicated as a CAD for a building but it’s still a great starting point.

Re: Text-to-CAD

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Post by contingencies »

dugite-code wrote: post #88
contingencies wrote: post #86

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Rest assured, if the fabricator is in demand you are being charged a premium for turning up with a PDF instead of a 3D model they can auto-convert to toolpaths.

You're not going to be using toolpaths with a building.

Individual structural members, window and door frames are typically CNC'd off-site. Obviously the amount depends on what kind of build (eg. residential one-off, high vs. low spec, apartments, commercial, etc.) but in general for anything departing base-grade one-off small scale residential you will see more and more CNC'd elements.
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