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Re: No star, No fix

#81
post #53

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because I don't give out fake likes.

You can give genuine ones.

not when giving a star is a condition for having a report accepted.

i barely ever star any project. stars are public and so i will only star the most important projects that i want to recommend to others.

but i do occasionally make reports to projects that i don't actively use or don't want to recommend. if a project doesn't want my report without a star, then well, good luck to them.

Re: No star, No fix

#82
post #81
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can give genuine ones.

not when giving a star is a condition for having a report accepted. i barely ever star any project. stars are public and so i will only star the most important projects that i want to recommend to others. but i do occasionally make reports to projects that i don't actively use or don't want to recommend. if a project doesn't want my report without a star, then well, good luck to them.

Yes, but this particular sub-thread started with GP saying:

> I don’t think I have ever starred anything on Github. (...)

Re: No star, No fix

#83
post #2

I wonder if this goes against github's "no automated starring" policy [0] (that people have been banned for in the past). Maybe "coordinated inauthentic activity" ? Either way, feels sleazy. [0] https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/acceptable-use-polici...

I fail to see a reason where it would be a violation because of the following reasons: 1) it's a response to a user's request, i.e., not initiated by the repo author 2) it depends on consensus of the user. 3) it's not automated (most of the items from the policy are related to automation). 4) the repo author has no obligation whatsoever of maintaining the project. He is not paid or forced to do it. 5) if the user rea…

Regardless of the current rule, it really ought to be a violation. If it's not, all repos that care about star rankings are forced to start doing the same thing to compete, which eventually turns stars into a metric of which repos have the highest quantity of annoying problems that users want to report, rather than a metric of whatever it's supposed to measure.

Re: No star, No fix

#84
post #82
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not when giving a star is a condition for having a report accepted. i barely ever star any project. stars are public and so i will only star the most important projects that i want to recommend to others. but i do occasionally make reports to projects that i don't actively use or don't want to recommend. if a project doesn't want my report without a star, then well, good luck to them.

Yes, but this particular sub-thread started with GP saying: > I don’t think I have ever starred anything on Github. (...)

i don't get what you are trying to say. i haven't starred anything either, and i'd consider giving a star just to get a report accepted as fake just like GP...

Re: No star, No fix

#85
This is Trump demanding that everyone at a meeting say something good about him.

A star is me saying "I admire this".

This is saying "hey you, admire me."

Super gross. How is anyone here trying to say that's reasonable?

And aside from being low, forget that, it's also stupid because it hurts your own self. Some users do submit feature requests in a demanding entitled manner, but most don't and even those that do are all still useful information about what the users want.

This user is only submitting an idea for consideration, and offering to do the work themselves if the idea is agreed with.

The devs* response to this is utterly bizarre in that context. "I won't hear your idea unless you like me." ??? The user is trying to GIVE them something!

Not all gifts are desirable of course but the value or fitness of the pr was never even considered in this case. They are refusing to even look in the bag to see if it's a turd or a gold brick unless the user claims to like them.

* devs bot, aka, which would seem to pretty squarely hit the acceptable use terms that specifically covers stars and automation and authentic user interactions. Not only is the devs policy a form of automation in that it's a plain mechanistic rule no different from a line of code, and is also a transaction like buying amazon reviews, on top of that it's literally a bot implementing the policy!

Re: No star, No fix

#86
post #84
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but this particular sub-thread started with GP saying: > I don’t think I have ever starred anything on Github. (...)

i don't get what you are trying to say. i haven't starred anything either, and i'd consider giving a star just to get a report accepted as fake just like GP...

It goes like that:

I thought that the question "Why?" asked about this particular fragment of GP's comment:

> I don’t think I have ever starred anything on Github. (...)

Not to the particular situation of fixes for likes. Therefore the answer:

> because I don't give out fake likes.

was thought to be an answer to question: "Why haven't you ever starred anything on Github?". With this in mind I just wanted to say that likes do not have to be fake. You can like what you like. It may be a bit off the general topic of fixes for likes, but not off the more general topic of Github likes.

In this particular case I don't know what I would do. Probably if I really needed it I would just comply. If I already would have liked it or was close to it I would probably also just do it. In other cases when I would have thought about this as a courtesy I would drop it.

I have a bunch of repositories liked. I use it as a bookmark and a signal of interest for maintainers. As much as one would want to claim Github stars are not meaningless Internet points. A search engine will promote more starred repositories more, more people in general will think about using the thing. It is not a perfect measure of course, but it is not meaningless signal. It may often not mean much, but most of the time it is more meaningful than not. For my particular interests I often seek out repositories that have not the most stars, but also not the least.

Re: No star, No fix

#87
post #22

This is ridiculous. Not every issue means someone likes or even uses the codebase. Automated scanners, fuzzers, security researchers, and people who found an issue via a dependent codebase, are all examples where an issue might be filed but the person otherwise has no interest. What a nonsense thing to have. It's not harmless, especially for large projects. It'll discourage and even runs the risk of artificially cove…

Don't forget, nobody prevents the user from opening an issue. If it's critical and the maintainers care, they'll work on it with or without the user's star.

I think you missed the part where the issue was closed by the bot for the user not having starred the repo, in which case - especially on high-traffic repos - the likelihood of actually seeing it is reduced.

Re: No star, No fix

#88
post #54

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> if you don't think it's worth starring why even use it let along issues and pr's. - it's a dependency downstream and it's breaking my actual project. - I'm in evaluation/research phase for multiple repos and am not committed to that specific tool. Actions like this actively make me NOT want to star such behavior, nor even use the tool if I can help it - because I don't fundamentally use stars as a popularity stick…

> it's a dependency downstream and it's breaking my actual project. You depend on it but so much as clicking in a star button is burdensome? Come on! > I'm in evaluation/research phase for multiple repos and am not committed to that specific tool. Actions like this actively make me NOT want to star such behavior, nor even use the tool if I can help it Then the author's don't want you to use their project, so fork it…

>You depend on it but so much as clicking in a star button is burdensome? Come on!

I don't. Something I use depends on something depends on something... Depends on it, and I might not even agree with the dependency. I'm not rewarding something because of someone else's decision to use it.

>Then the author's don't want you to use their project, so fork it or move on.

At that point yes, I move on.

>This isn't about you.

Someone requests an action of me and people are confused by my response. So yes, it is about me. I can and do just say "no" and move on, but if people want me to clarify I will.

>You are not part of any of tha

Well they just made me a part of it. Congrats.

>The software is already FOSS, you downvote their post and anything defending them because what?

A lack of a star is not a downvote. And I'm very glad you can't downvote a repo. What a mess that would be. Why are you taking my inaction so personally? Who or what am I downcotijf to begin with?

I seel at this point you're arguing with a very different person than me.

Re: No star, No fix

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post #86
post #84

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i don't get what you are trying to say. i haven't starred anything either, and i'd consider giving a star just to get a report accepted as fake just like GP...

It goes like that: I thought that the question "Why?" asked about this particular fragment of GP's comment: > I don’t think I have ever starred anything on Github. (...) Not to the particular situation of fixes for likes. Therefore the answer: > because I don't give out fake likes. was thought to be an answer to question: "Why haven't you ever starred anything on Github?". With this in mind I just wanted to say that…

I think the problem here is that Im not the person who started the thread. But I do indeed use them as a bookmark system and unlike many people I do eventually instsr a repo. The few I keep starred despite that are genuinely my favorites, most by default is "watch for later".

Hence my answer, I feel giving a star becsuse I was prompted to in order to do something unrelated is fake.

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