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Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by donatj »

I still use whatever they call the service where my ripped CDs get uploaded to my Apple Music library. I have quite a few albums physically that their library lacks and it's been nice to be able to listen to them in my car.

Over the last 3 to 4 years though more and more of my music living in the cloud has gotten corrupted, to the point that something like 1 in 10 songs is unlistenable. The source material in my main library still plays fine, nothing wrong with it, but play it on any other device it pops and skips.

Doing some googling, I don't seem to be alone in this. It's honestly infuriating and has me potentially searching for some other service.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by vanchor3 »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #44
chx wrote: post #15

The beautifully written but not much known Rune Blades Of Celi ebooks no longer can be purchased, as the small publisher is just gone. Of course, the ones I purchased could no longer be downloaded. But want something bigger? Fine. The Wheel Of Time (is that large enough for you?) Complete Edition I bought for over a hundred dollars also can't be donwloaded any more. (And to be more on topic, one of my favorite artist…

> Tell me true, if you can't buy them how on earth it is piracy to download them? People would argue that it's up to the seller whether they want to make their creations available. If I don't want to sell you something, then I'd entertain the argument that downloading it anyway is in some sense immoral or unethical. But in your situation, you've already fucking bought it! It's as if you placed a pick-up order at the…

> People would argue that it's up to the seller whether they want to make their creations available. If I don't want to sell you something, then I'd entertain the argument that downloading it anyway is in some sense immoral or unethical.

I would say another key distinction is between "don't want to sell/can't sell" vs "don't want you to buy". In the former it may be because the owner does not want to go through the trouble of selling it or is no longer around to sell it. I know some people have given up because the effort to deal with "trolls" (particularly DMCA and fakes) has either turned their passion into a nightmare or it's not really their passion anymore and they don't want to deal with it.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by 082349872349872 »

high_5 wrote: post #83

The true anarchism to the enshittification of the music services would be to just sing or whistle the songs.

I've heard rumours there are even analogue "musical instruments" which can be used (especially during Carnaval) to cover music...

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by gambiting »

The thing that really worries me and which no one seems to be talking about is the region locking of localisation for streaming content.

For context - we're a Polish family living in the UK(like 2 million other Polish people). We have a small child who loves Disney films, and because he is normally exposed to English(and speaks it fluently) I'd like him to at least watch cartoons in Polish. But Disney region locks most(not all, but majority) of Polish localisation to Poland only. When we visit Poland I can watch all Disney content in Polish on my UK account without any issue - but when we're in the UK these localisation options disappear. So Disney clearly has those options but chooses not to offer them.

So right now, at least we can still buy DVDs or have those shipped over. But it's clear that Disney wants to stop distribution of physical media - as they've already done in some regions.

What then for multilingual families? Just "suck it up" and don't have access to content in my language, because I don't happen to currently live in Poland?

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by cowsup »

llm_nerd wrote: post #35
spicyusername wrote: post #6

It seems that we've entered the rent-seeking phase of corporate capitalism. Why spend any extra time, money, or energy making new products or services when you can instead make more money doing nothing but using your outsized political and economic power to coerce and extort consumers instead. At this point it's impossible to see how any new merger or acquisition isn't just another step in the wrong direction, handin…

A tiny musician withdrew their music, so I'm not sure how relevant breaking up mega firms is. In cases like this, a creator puts their own music on a service like Amuse. They or that service (acting as their "publisher") removed it, which removes Apple's right to stream it. Apple didn't take away this guy's Ladybug Music.

> A tiny musician withdrew their music, so I'm not sure how relevant breaking up mega firms is.

The later half of the post is about Sony's deal with Paramount ending, resulting in paid content being revoked from Playstation consoles.

Whether Sony refused to pay the previously-agreed upon rate, or Paramount decided to unreasonably increase what Sony was paying, we may never know, but both of those are definitely large enough for the commenter's remark to be relevant.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by gpvos »

kleiba wrote: post #51
chx wrote: post #15

The beautifully written but not much known Rune Blades Of Celi ebooks no longer can be purchased, as the small publisher is just gone. Of course, the ones I purchased could no longer be downloaded. But want something bigger? Fine. The Wheel Of Time (is that large enough for you?) Complete Edition I bought for over a hundred dollars also can't be donwloaded any more. (And to be more on topic, one of my favorite artist…

> the ones I purchased This is were you went wrong.

Incorrect. They actually purchased them and could download them, DRM-free. (At least if the other services listed are like Bandcamp.) You should archive them yourself after downloading. The fact that you can download them again from the server, or maybe stream them, is an additional service, it's not the thing itself.

That being said, when something is not sold anymore, I'd say it's fair game to torrent it or upload it wherever.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by pavel_lishin »

Semaphor wrote: post #63
pavel_lishin wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And again, you own the music, if it stops existing that sucks, but only for the future, everything you bought, you still have. Only if you downloaded the mp3s/flacs, and also backed them up.

Do people use BC in other ways? I mean, I guess technically, you could just keep streaming, but do people do that? I’d assume anyone using bandcamp cares about having the music actually available.

I think some people assume that it'll always be there to re-download. I certainly download things immediately, and stick it somewhere where it'll be backed up nightly.
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