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Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by mderazon »

aryonoco wrote: post #17

Every once in a while, I looked for an alternative to Google. I have given them all a go, but none of them stayed as my default for more than a few days. Until Kagi. I absolutely did not think I would pay for a search engine. Especially as I've recently been on a quest to cut every unnecessary subscription. YouTube Premium is gone (thanks to 83/% family plan price hike). Half of my dozen or so domains are gone... you…

For me, Chatgpt / Bard and similar (Perplexity) has replaced 85 percent of Google searches so I feel Kagi will be a step backwards in this regard

Perhaps better than Google, but the whole paradigm shifted

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by yonatan8070 »

mgaunard wrote: post #55
chrisandchris wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similar here. I didn't know Kagi until, as I remember, there was an article here on HN. I thought too why should I pay for search? Kagi basically won me after I realised I can exclude whole domains from search results - now Pinterest, Stackshare and all those AI-generated content filler sites are gone from my search results. Search results are great and it's just worth it. The only advantage Google so far has IMHO is…

That's actually something I dislike, I don't want my results to be different based on where I am.

Yeah I agree on that one, if I wanted results specific to where I physically am I'd append the city/country name to my search.

Example where this annoys me with Google: if I search for "gdb", the first result is a local burger place named GDB, and not the GNU Debugger

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by q0uaur »

puttycat wrote: post #56

Kagi is currently great. Can someone explain what makes it more resilient to AI-generated garbage than Google? (If at all)

I imagine the reason we get all the AI garbage is ads. kagi downranks sites that contain a lot of ads, while google, who obviously gets their income from ads, pushes them. that alone is bound to make a massive difference.

there's more, of course. but it's plenty for me to decide that i have no problem paying my $10 a month to not get 8/10 results that are ads.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by andrewaylett »

sph wrote: post #40

Thanks Kagi, love these status updates. Vlad, I know you often read these comments, so here's a suggestion: I would love a way for Kagi to respect my search query and not try to interpret or assume anything is a typo. "Verbatim" feels just too strict (I think the order of the words is important as well, doesn't return more than 2 or 3 links), where the default is too loose. Sadly, I don't have any examples to share,…

If you quote each word, you get closer to what you're looking for but without quite the degree of specificity that you'd get from quoting the entire query?

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by hobofan »

puttycat wrote: post #56

Kagi is currently great. Can someone explain what makes it more resilient to AI-generated garbage than Google? (If at all)

I think at some point in the past Google shifted it's stance of SEO from "if you do SEO you are cleary trying to game the system and will be punished" to "we are generally okay with SEO as that easens the burden of trying to guess content, and will only rarely punish it".

One instance that seemed like a turning point there was their reversal on the search penalty of genius.com after they were found gaming the system, something that I think was enforced much harder in the past.

So I think with embracing SEO spam to some degree (in combination with generally tailoring the behaviour of the search results more towards "consumption"), they must have lost parts of the resiliency. In contrast Kagi seems to be very alergic to SEO spam (AI generated or not), sometimes even too much.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by q0uaur »

yunohn wrote: post #6

I find it kind of hilarious that a paid search engine is highlighting paid articles to help their users avoid them.

we really need a better way of paying for content. There's some attempts going around of browsers or extensions paying sites, but the ones i've seen felt kinda scammy.

i'd love some service where i can put in $20 a month, and it gets split up among the sites i've visited, with options to give bigger shares or exclude sites completely. probably not gonna happen for a while though, having to set up something to receive payments with is just too much trouble for the small personal blogs etc. that have the most interesting content.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by cianmm »

nvarsj wrote: post #84

I really like Kagi. The only thing bugging me is there is occasional delays when searching, at least from the UK. Google's instant search definitely has spoiled me there.

I remember trialing it a while back and gave up pretty fast due to the consistent very long delays when searching from Ireland.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by huggingmouth »

aryonoco wrote: post #17

Every once in a while, I looked for an alternative to Google. I have given them all a go, but none of them stayed as my default for more than a few days. Until Kagi. I absolutely did not think I would pay for a search engine. Especially as I've recently been on a quest to cut every unnecessary subscription. YouTube Premium is gone (thanks to 83/% family plan price hike). Half of my dozen or so domains are gone... you…

I desperately wish I could use kagi but tying my identity to my searches is an automatic nogo. Is kagi interested in offering a Mulvad-grade option where everything is in ram and NO data is tied to my account?

Kagi, if you're listening. Please.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by nalekberov »

I am still not convinced that I should trust Kagi. Why should I use my email address to log into the system? They say that it's for them to know how much credit you have left. Mullvad does generate a unique number for you, which you can use indefinitely.
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