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Re: JetBrains AI

#81
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Kinda lame this isn't included in the "All Products Pack"

> Kinda lame this isn't included in the "All Products Pack" This is why the ownership model of software is so much better than some SASS offering. Modern SASS solutions are just about incrementally extorting more revenue from customers after locking them into a platform, as they’re driven to chase new “features”… And this is an IDE of all things…

Nitpick : I think you mean SAAS and not SASS.

Re: JetBrains AI

#82
I would have appreciated a local LLM integration as a free feature of the IDE. As it stands, I'm more likely right now to just use GitHub Copilot than to use JetBrains AI if I want a subscription billed remote LLM.

Re: JetBrains AI

#83
post #78
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't fall into the trap of: It has to be the best or it is useless. The question for me is: Does it help me get my job done. Does it assist me in ways I find useful.

I have been using github copilot for a while now, but when I first tested these, together with the code AI offering from Amazon, they were... kinda useless. Only after a few updates did it get to a point that was a net positive in my daily work. And I still occasionally check the local models, and they're still not on a level in their auto-complete capabilities that I'd like to use, at least last time I checked. But…

I don't use them for auto-complete that may be the difference. I use them for various other things. Tests, etc. I don't find them 100% accurate. But it beats writing it from scratch.

Re: JetBrains AI

#84

> Besides yourself, who knows your project best? Your IDE! This statement is a bit creepy.

Could you elaborate why? You open the project, it is scanned and indexed. Seems logical and obvious if the IDE can sugges a relevant completion based on the whole project structure. Thanks!

Re: JetBrains AI

#85
post #51

Who owns the source code if AI is helping you write it? Is this a concern for companies that are copyrighting their code? What if multiple companies use this AI tool to implement an algorithm and then copyright it?

IIRC, (US) copyright would be assigned to the person who used the tool*. Just like how your keyboard doesn't own the copyright to what you write with it. * Existing contracts with copyright assignment clauses notwithstanding

at what point does a keyboard become aware enough to make it not copyrightable? If I instructed a monkey to press enter and create a poem with chatgpt, that work wouldn't be accredited to me or anybody.

How come a monkey makes it not eligible but GenAI is?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_disput...

Re: JetBrains AI

#86
I may not have read the release notes etc properly but I'd been using this with the most recent updates of clion and assumed it was just a new feature being added.

I recently renewed my subscription in part because this looked interesting. I kind of regret that now.

I had assumed that the subscription entitled you to all of clion and other ides, not just part of them and other features would be an addition charge.

Re: JetBrains AI

#87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Kinda lame this isn't included in the "All Products Pack" This is why the ownership model of software is so much better than some SASS offering. Modern SASS solutions are just about incrementally extorting more revenue from customers after locking them into a platform, as they’re driven to chase new “features”… And this is an IDE of all things…

Nitpick : I think you mean SAAS and not SASS.

> Nitpick : I think you mean SAAS and not SASS.

You’re correct, thanks for pointing out the typo.

Re: JetBrains AI

#88
I've been trying it out on a small project for the last few hours and I am quite enjoying it! I tried copilot and was very disappointed.

I think this needs some fine tuning(it keeps trying to remove my comments), but other than that it's probably the only tool I felt comfortable other than copy pasting from chatGPT, which obviously doesn't include diff or context of the project.

Yeah it's a shame it's not included in the all products pack, but for the amount of power I get for my buck, I'm pretty happy with JetBrains overall!

Re: JetBrains AI

#89
post #61

Just like many others are saying here, and i hope JetBrains hears and sees the feedback- this should 100% be included in the all products pack. We are already paying for products we don’t use, incentivize us not to downgrade. An extra subscription on top of gpt-4 is rough. I’ve been a loyal customer for years and have convinced many others to switch and pay for your products. Now it’s going to effectively double in p…

I think it makes sense not to include it to the license. Such solutions cause additional cost just by the needed computing power, which the customer needs to pay for. So the cost of the JetBrians license needs to include that in the long term. If one would like to use another AI tool like Copilot they would still need to pay for JetBrains AI. In a lot of environments Coding AI usage is not allowed or even possible (n…

"A lot" are not allowed? Most of places who disallow AI assistants will also happily pay exorbitant rates to consultants who will publish all your code base publicly on git...

And how many offline coders are out there? My guess is less than 1%?

Re: JetBrains AI

#90
post #76
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but if you're looking for code completion at the quality level of Codex/Github Copilot, that's still a bit off.

Don't fall into the trap of: It has to be the best or it is useless. The question for me is: Does it help me get my job done. Does it assist me in ways I find useful.

Okay so maybe 5% of developers who use desktop will be willing to fork out on a GPU and go thru process of setting up something that costs $10 otherwise...
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