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Re: HTML, the Programming Language

#81

Post by g9yuayon » Mon, Dec 04, 2023, 9:45 PM UTC

I remember in the hay days of XML, someone made an article that discussed why XML is really just a language of S-expressions. This article seems argue something similar.

P.S., S-expression or not, XML-based DSLs are horrible. I don't know how many people have PTSDs using ANT or a slew of commercial "user-friendly" DSLs for test automation, process automation, and etc. It turns out the companies just didn't know how to design small programming languages and certainly lacked of compiler-writing skills.

Re: HTML, the Programming Language

#82

Post by lioeters » Mon, Dec 04, 2023, 9:50 PM UTC

owenpalmer wrote: post #46

JavaScript, the Markup Language

  div({ class: 'example' }, [
    p('Hello, ', [
      b('world!)
    ])
  ])

Re: HTML, the Programming Language

#83

Post by k__ » Mon, Dec 04, 2023, 9:56 PM UTC

g9yuayon wrote: post #81

I remember in the hay days of XML, someone made an article that discussed why XML is really just a language of S-expressions. This article seems argue something similar. P.S., S-expression or not, XML-based DSLs are horrible. I don't know how many people have PTSDs using ANT or a slew of commercial "user-friendly" DSLs for test automation, process automation, and etc. It turns out the companies just didn't know how t…

I remember JSX examples that went in this direction.

Re: HTML, the Programming Language

#84

Post by xtagon » Mon, Dec 04, 2023, 10:20 PM UTC

Yes but how do I use WebAssembly as a markup language?

Re: HTML, the Programming Language

#85

Post by rob » Mon, Dec 04, 2023, 10:44 PM UTC

laurent_du wrote: post #16

Finally I can use html on the frontend and the backend! I am adding a "full-stack html" badge to my Linkedin account right away.

Personally I'm using CSS [0] on the backend, but might switch it out for HTML. It'd be cool to use the same technology for both. The CSS+HTML combo has some big limitations.

[0] https://dev.to/thormeier/dont-try-this-at-home-css-as-the-ba...

Re: HTML, the Programming Language

#86

Post by paulddraper » Mon, Dec 04, 2023, 10:54 PM UTC

jraph wrote: post #45

MikeTheGreat wrote: post #22

The best part is how they have to keep repeating "HTML, the programming language" or "HTML, the markup language" everywhere in an attempt to keep things clear :) It would be awesome if they were using some sort of macro system / templating engine to consistently expand {{html_prog}} and {{html_markup}} just to keep it straight while they're writing it. Thank you for posting this, it made my day a bunch brighter!

> It would be awesome if they were using some sort of macro system / templating engine to consistently expand {{html_prog}} and {{html_markup}} just to keep it straight while they're writing it. You could use the tag. To use it: Using source to look familiar to bash users because why not.

Maybe even

Re: HTML, the Programming Language

#87

Post by eagle2com » Mon, Dec 04, 2023, 10:55 PM UTC

How am I supposed to complete the LinkedIn quizz for HTML (the programming language) when the documentation states that will result in values "anded" together >:(

Re: HTML, the Programming Language

#88

Post by jayknight » Mon, Dec 04, 2023, 10:56 PM UTC

Ok, I guess I'll do Advent of Code in HTML, the Programming Language this year...

Re: HTML, the Programming Language

#89

Post by jayknight » Mon, Dec 04, 2023, 10:59 PM UTC

lioeters wrote: post #82

owenpalmer wrote: post #46

JavaScript, the Markup Language

div({ class: 'example' }, [ p('Hello, ', [ b('world!) ]) ])

Needs more callbacks.

Re: HTML, the Programming Language

#90

Post by socketcluster » Mon, Dec 04, 2023, 11:03 PM UTC

I'm really into this HTML web components trend. I built a similar set of primitive HTML components except the focus is to allow interfacing with data from my serverless platform.

See https://github.com/Saasufy/saasufy-components#saasufy-compon...

Actually, the elements from this article could complement my own nicely as they seem to provide more fine-grained control.

My platform is https://saasufy.com/ (you can log in with GitHub)