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Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by carlivar »

andy_xor_andrew wrote: post #16

If it is a great car, but flops because it looks weird, that's a shame. If it's a terribly-built car, with reliability issues, and a super difficult production cycle, that's a shame, but for a different reason: you'd think after the snafu over the Model X, where certain features (the X-wing doors) were a production nightmare and ballooned the cost and tanked the reliability, they wouldn't make the same mistake again.…

By "themselves" do you mean Elon Musk? I wasn't under the impression that Tesla was much of a collaborative environment. Musk bans Kanban and Toyota Production System principles after all.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by talldatethrow »

notatoad wrote: post #70
slowhadoken wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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yeah! the approximately 8000 pedestrians killed by cars each year in the US should just be better at dodging them, like this guy is.

They really should. It's a good way not to die. Just like many of the motorcyclists that die should have worn helmets, not gone above the speed limit, and not drank alcohol. Those 3 things account for something like 60% of motorcycle deaths.

Edit: The point is, people contribute heavily to their deaths on motorcycles. And I assume on foot too. Wearing ear phones? Chance of death through the roof. Talking on the phone? Way more dangerous. Out at night walking after a drink or two? Better watch out. Don't look both ways, twice? You're in trouble.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by yaomtc »

mike_d wrote: post #61
slowhadoken wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah but automotive safety has been great the last twenty years especially for children

It really has, cars have gotten progressively safer every year since 1975 for everyone involved. https://www.iihs.org/topics/fatality-statistics/detail/child...

Not everyone involved. Not for people outside the car. https://www.npr.org/2023/06/26/1184034017/us-pedestrian-deat...

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by OfficialTurkey »

I_Am_Nous wrote: post #78
1970-01-01 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Safe public roads haven't existed since 1900.

Before cars it was highway robbers. Being in between places is always a higher risk location and roads are the guaranteed routes someone will go down. Cars make it safer for the people in them, the same way a stagecoach protected people up to a point.

"Cars make traveling safer than before, so we shouldn't care about improving automotive safety" is such a weird take.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by ChrisClark »

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #26
xp84 wrote: post #3

I'm rooting for it despite it being silly and not a practical pickup, strictly because every car people are buying looks identical (picture a crossover SUV from Toyota, Chevy, BMW etc. Basically shoe-shaped things). This looks like a concept car that would never come to market. I hope it sells really well and convinces others to bring actually-creative designs to market.

That's pretty much how I would feel for this or for the Homer Car. Is either one a good idea? Probably not, no. But it's fun to see different things, and trying new stuff is how we learn and grow, even when we do it because the CEO or his brother is making bad decisions.

That's why I like that the Nissan Cube is a thing, though I wouldn't buy one, I like that it's not symmetrical and that they tried something different.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by yreg »

MaximilianEmel wrote: post #58

The main thing I really dislike is the lack of buttons and dials. It looks to be just a single touchscreen in the center for everything .

There are some buttons. Perhaps not as many as you would like but it's not a single touchscreen.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by jtriangle »

ramesh31 wrote: post #47

I understand the nostalgia for those rock solid steel bumpered behemoths people used to drive. Knocking your bumper on the curb and shelling out a few grand for some plastic sucks. But think just for a moment about how the physics of that equation work out. There's 3 tons of rolling steel coming to a stop, and something's gotta give. It's either the car, or you. Best of luck to anyone who drives ones of these. I'll b…

I'd guess that these are probably going to be one of the safest things to drive. It's bigger and heavier than most things on the road, which improves your odds if they do it right.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by dgrin91 »

MaximilianEmel wrote: post #58

The main thing I really dislike is the lack of buttons and dials. It looks to be just a single touchscreen in the center for everything .

This seems to line up with the rest of Tesla stuff - there are a few physical interaction points on the steering wheel (which work surprisingly well) and the rest is 100% glass screen. Its enough for the driver to do their normal tasks, but anything extra (e.g. changing AC) requires touching the central screen.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by jehb »

I wonder how much the demand for this vehicle has changed since it was first announced.

I was definitely on the bandwagon from this thing from the first time I saw it. Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by constantly »

thinkingemote wrote: post #37
xp84 wrote: post #3

I'm rooting for it despite it being silly and not a practical pickup, strictly because every car people are buying looks identical (picture a crossover SUV from Toyota, Chevy, BMW etc. Basically shoe-shaped things). This looks like a concept car that would never come to market. I hope it sells really well and convinces others to bring actually-creative designs to market.

We are still in the motor cars looking like horse drawn carriages without the horses phase. Electric cars don't need ICE engine layouts. It will take a few years until the designers realise they can have cars looking much different as they have more flexibility. I also have hope this truck on the roads will get manufacturers doing something different. Concept cars at car shows should be where we should look first.

Any ideas for how to redesign these? The thought is compelling.

I’m thinking about it and even with EVs you’d still want four wheels, want to put the battery flat on the bottom for various reasons. So the base seems like it’s four wheels with a flat platform.

Building space for 1-6 people on top thought and I seem to arrive at the same designs that already exist. Thoughts?

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