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Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Others from OpenAI team, maybe can lead the AI research, but how does Sam can lead a research group? IMO, to lead a research group you need some decent research skills, Sam is good at business

It will be an applied research group obviously to develop products based on AI

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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This is sorta brilliant.

Microsoft has access to almost everything OpenAI does. And now Altman and Brockman will have that access too.

Meanwhile, I imagine their tenure at MSFT will be short-lived, because hot-shot startup folks don’t really want to work there.

They can stabilize, use OpenAI’s data and models for free, use Microsoft’s GPUs at cost, and start a new company shortly, of which Microsoft will own some large share.

Altman doesn’t need Microsoft’s money - but Microsoft has direct access to OpenAI, which is currently priceless.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Over time, the new team at Microsoft will slowly drain the OpenAI talent as MS will provider fewer and fewer resources to OAI and prioritize their own team they have full ownership owner. OAI will die a slow death due to the talent and resource drain. In a year or two, Sam and Greg will end up with the same people at MS that are now still at OAI. Okay, perhaps minus Sutskever.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Anyone else find it strange that startup founders of the magnitude of Sam & Greg would join a gigantic corporation as employees? It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect.

They're likely going to be the ones who manage the OpenAI relationship...what better way to fuck the people who fucked them than by becoming the ones who literally control the resources that they need?

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What value does Sam bring now? They have all the money they could want. All the connections they’d need. Weird situation for him.

Agreed. Sam isn’t some AI visionary, he’s a startup guy. Unless he’s leading a team that’s going to spin out a new company, I don’t get it.

Researchers can not be 'AI visionaries', almost by definition, as you focus on depth instead of breadth as a competent researcher.

Someone like Sam Altman is indeed more of a visionary than every hardcore AI researcher. The job here is to not push the boundaries of science, it is to figure out and predict the cascading effects of a new invention.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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post #8

Anyone else find it strange that startup founders of the magnitude of Sam & Greg would join a gigantic corporation as employees? It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect.

> It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect. Except if Sam and Greg have some anti-compete clauses. If they join MS, they have a nice 10 billion USD leverage against any lawsuites.

non-competes are extremely hard to enforce in California. Sam would literally have to download Open AI trade secrets into a USB drive to get in trouble.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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post #24
post #8

Anyone else find it strange that startup founders of the magnitude of Sam & Greg would join a gigantic corporation as employees? It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect.

> It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect. Except if Sam and Greg have some anti-compete clauses. If they join MS, they have a nice 10 billion USD leverage against any lawsuites.

Do anti-compete clauses work when you’ve been ousted? Greg resigned, actually, but Sam was ejected.
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