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Board is not exactly leadership. They meet infrequently and get updates directly from management, they don't go around asking employees what they're working on
They do typically have views into strategic plans, roadmaps and product plans.
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Frankly this reads like idolatry and fan fiction. You’ve concocted an entire dramatization based on not even knowing any of the players involved and just going based off some biased stereotyping of engineers?
How important is Altman? How important were three senior scientists? Can they start their own company, raise funding, and overtake OpenAI in a few years? Or does OpenAI have some material advantage that isn’t likely to be harmed by this? Perhaps the competition is inevitably a good thing. Or maybe a bad thing if it creates pressure to cut ethical corners. I also wonder if the dream of an “open” org bringing this tech…
An optimistic perspective of how despite today's regrettable events, Sama and gdb will start something new and more competition is a good thing : https://x.com/DrJimFan/status/1725916938281627666?s=20 I have a contrarian prediction : Due to pressure from investors and a lawsuit against the openai board, the board will be made to resign and Sama & Greg will return to openai. Anybody else agree ?
Or are you thinking it would be a kind of power play from investors to say, “nah, we want it to be profit driven.”
Only time will tell, but if this was indeed "just" a coup then it's somewhat likely we're witnessing a variant of the Steve Jobs story all over again. Sam is clearly one of the top product engineering leaders in the world -- few companies could ever match OpenAI's incredible product delivery over the last few years -- and he's also one of the most connected engineering leaders in the industry. He could likely have $5…
I know everybody is going nuts about this, but just from my personal perspective I’ve worked at a variety of companies with “important” CEOs, and in every single one of those cases had the CEO left I would not have cared at all. The CEO always gets way too much credit externally for what the company is doing, it does not mean the CEO is that important. OpenAI might be different, I don’t have any personal experience,…
It's such a small cohort that when someone doesn't completely blow it, they're immediately deemed as geniuses.
Give someone billions of dollars and hundreds of brilliant engineers, researchers and many will make it work. But only a few ever get the chance, so this happens.
They don't do any of the work. They just take the credit.
If as it seems, dev day was the last straw, what does that say to all the devs?
I know everybody is going nuts about this, but just from my personal perspective I’ve worked at a variety of companies with “important” CEOs, and in every single one of those cases had the CEO left I would not have cared at all. The CEO always gets way too much credit externally for what the company is doing, it does not mean the CEO is that important. OpenAI might be different, I don’t have any personal experience,…
Unless someone is truly well versed in the production of something, they latch on to the most public facing aspect of that production and the person at the highest level of authority (to them, even though directors and CEOs often have to answer to others as well)
That’s not to say they don’t have an outsized individual effect, but it’s rare their greatness is solo
How important is Altman? How important were three senior scientists? Can they start their own company, raise funding, and overtake OpenAI in a few years? Or does OpenAI have some material advantage that isn’t likely to be harmed by this? Perhaps the competition is inevitably a good thing. Or maybe a bad thing if it creates pressure to cut ethical corners. I also wonder if the dream of an “open” org bringing this tech…
An optimistic perspective of how despite today's regrettable events, Sama and gdb will start something new and more competition is a good thing : https://x.com/DrJimFan/status/1725916938281627666?s=20 I have a contrarian prediction : Due to pressure from investors and a lawsuit against the openai board, the board will be made to resign and Sama & Greg will return to openai. Anybody else agree ?
The average SWE at OpenAI who signed up for the “900k” compensation package which was really > 600k in OpenAI PPU equity probably saw their comp evaporate. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36460082
That's a cynical take on work. I assume most people have other motivations since work is basically a prison.