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Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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I am wondering the same. It’s a PR desaster to their dev community and i’m not even sure if Sutskever isn’t secretly happy about this.

I am at lost. Not fear, just lost. Don't know what to do. Is my investment into their API still worth it? It feels very unstable at this moment.

Microsoft owns it. I honestly can not imagine trying to build a business on an API owned by Microsoft of all companies.

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Microsoft not very much

They have the GPT tech, now they can poach the talent from openai without guilt

Why should they feel guilt for giving workers a chance to get paid what they really are worth?

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The way Sam and Greg were fired maybe led him to no longer have faith in the company and so he quit?

More like the guy who engineered this situation is an asshole and they don't want to work for him.

Who was that? How are they an asshole?

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GPT5 pre-training just ended I believe. Brock, Pachocki, Szymon Sidor, would have likely all been involved. These are huge losses. Pachocki led pre-training for GPT-4, and probably GPT-5. Brockman is the major engineer responsible for the efficiency improvements that enabled ChatGPT and GPT-4 to be even remotely cost-effective. That is a piece that is often overlooked, but OpenAI's advantage over the competition in c…

"Greg Brockman works 60 to 100 hours per week, and spends around 80% of the time coding. Former colleagues have described him as the hardest-working person at OpenAI."

https://time.com/collection/time100-ai/6309033/greg-brockman...

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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Aleksander in particular is deeply invested in AI safety as a mission. It's a very confusing departure, since most of the reporting so far indicates that Ilya and the board fired Sam to prioritize safety and non-profit objectives. A huge loss for OpenAI nonetheless.

> since most of the reporting so far indicates that Ilya and the board fired Sam to prioritize safety and non-profit objectives

With evidence, or is this the kind of pure speculation that media indulges in when they have no information and have to appear knowledgeable?

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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You must not use AI if you think this. AI is not the bubble. Everything AI will replace is the bubble.

AI art is already boring. its all a fad, eventually the cracks start to show and you can't unsee those cracks. very similar to bitcoin. tbh.

The interesting to boring scale depends on novelty. Given the ai oversaturation it works exactly as expected.

AI Art is currently in very early stage. In the real art space (3d modeling, sculpting, animation, vfx, animation, rigging, retargeting), it could make huge breakthroughs and multiply true artists' productivity in significant ways

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Speaking for my own n of 1, ChatGPT Pro has almost entirely (>90%) replaced the Google search engine in my daily life. The results from ChatGPT are just so much better and faster. That's got to be worth something, since Alphabet is a $1.7T company mostly on the strength of ads associated with Google search.

Chat gpt is not a good source of truth so can’t be used for information retrieval at scale. You might have a specific usage pattern that is very different to the majority of Google Search users so it works for you

Searching Google is not a good source of truth either; especially their infoboxes which have been infamously and dangerously wrong. And if you follow a random search result link - well, who knows if the content on that site is trustworthy either!

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While I don’t know what is happening in OpenAI, from my experience(long enough to have an opinion), top people often leave when the employer is doing well or passing the last hurdle because, by that time the employer has gained adequate presence and brand identity that anyone leaving can immediately end up in top FAANG or equivalent Corps with much better benefits and of course pay/equity and other things. Only time…

FAANG would probably be viewed as a step down from OpenAI at this point (or at least until today)

Which is exactly why you can expect a good position and lots of benefits.
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