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Re: .NET 8

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Post by oaiey »

Someone1234 wrote: post #63
willsmith72 wrote: post #20

I'd love to hear from some .NET fanatics, how would you convince someone to use that ecosystem over another?

I love .Net, but context is key. I may suggest .Net for new WebAPI development (minimalist or otherwise), typically with a deployment target of containers and or Linux. It is a strong web back-end language in a similar way to Java but with Linq support, async/await, and a better primary programming language (C#). It has strong integrations into corporate software and all popular DBMS. But, frankly, Linq is the magic…

Have a look at Blazor Hybrid. This is really nice thing. Blazor is the first UI toolkit I actually love for many years.

Re: .NET 8

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Post by neonsunset »

bmitc wrote: post #50
menacingly wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With consistent, reasonable-by-default threading abstractions baked in

Are those new? What are they by name?

.NET has had first-class parallelism and async/await since around .NET Framework 4.0 release which was...13 years ago huh. There have been many improvements in the underlying runtime since then though.

A garden variety of keywords is async/await, TPL (tasks/futures and structured concurrency) and PLINQ (Rust's Rayon).

Re: .NET 8

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Post by Errsher »

mathverse wrote: post #55
dodyg wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- It is a mature platform with yearly updates. - New stuffs integrate nicely with existing features. - C# and F# gets yearly updates. - Somehow they manage to get the platform faster every year. - Microsoft Orleans.

Microsoft seems weird tho. They dont really support any recommended way to do .NET on Mac and you have to rely on Rider or half ass VS Code experience.

Is it "wierd tho" that Microsoft would have better support for development tools on their own OS than on a competitor OS?

Re: .NET 8

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Post by anaisbetts »

jordigh wrote: post #13

Can I get an explanation of the relationship between .NET and Mono? I have vague memory of reading somewhere that Mono or maybe just MonoBuild was completely obsolete since everything was now open source in .NET. Does Mono still have a reason to exist? Is it all incorporated into .NET now? (btw, I still don't get why it's called .NET, and I don't know if assemblies are native code or bytecode wrapped in the same bina…

> (btw, I still don't get why it's called .NET, and I don't know if assemblies are native code or bytecode wrapped in the same binary format as .exe, where is the ".NET for hardcore open source Linux nerds" blog post?)

.NET can now do either one - you can ship PE bytecode and require the dotnet runtime, which works in practice similar to e.g. Python or Ruby (you run `dotnet ./myapp.dll`), or you can precompile it into a single platform-specific binary that is just a native code app, similar to Go's static binaries.

Re: .NET 8

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Post by guhidalg »

willsmith72 wrote: post #20

I'd love to hear from some .NET fanatics, how would you convince someone to use that ecosystem over another?

.NET/C# + Visual Studio [Code] + Azure DevOps + Azure Cloud = Everything is guaranteed to work for what a software company needs, with full documentation, examples, and a history of variants to explore.

You simply don't have to spend too much time researching what to do, just follow the docs and get started writing code and delivering features.

If you stray from the full integration of MS products, you start to lose some of the value proposition.

Re: .NET 8

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Post by rahkiin »

mathverse wrote: post #55
dodyg wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- It is a mature platform with yearly updates. - New stuffs integrate nicely with existing features. - C# and F# gets yearly updates. - Somehow they manage to get the platform faster every year. - Microsoft Orleans.

Microsoft seems weird tho. They dont really support any recommended way to do .NET on Mac and you have to rely on Rider or half ass VS Code experience.

They support ‘dotnet’ cli, just not an IDE. But we’ve got Rider

Re: .NET 8

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Post by haolez »

endianswap wrote: post #68
haolez wrote: post #49

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At least until it gains an immense market share and Microsoft starts monetizing it again. They've already tried in .NET Core 7, no? I'm staying away for now.

Can you share any details about .NET Core 7's monetization? I couldn't find anything on Google.

I think it was related to tooling. Something about hot reloading. Can't remember the details.

Re: .NET 8

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Post by bmitc »

leosanchez wrote: post #77
bmitc wrote: post #50

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Are those new? What are they by name?

I think the parent comment is talking about System.Threading.Tasks. I might be wrong though.

Oh, I see. I was hoping for something new. I keep on hoping some sort of BEAM-like (from Erlang) process gets added to .NET.

Re: .NET 8

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Post by 9cb14c1ec0 »

endianswap wrote: post #68
haolez wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least until it gains an immense market share and Microsoft starts monetizing it again. They've already tried in .NET Core 7, no? I'm staying away for now.

Can you share any details about .NET Core 7's monetization? I couldn't find anything on Google.

It's all open source and free, on Github. I've used .NET for about 10 years now, and the only money it has cost me is a few third party libraries that I couldn't find good open source competitors for.
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