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Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

imiric wrote: post #51
jeffparsons wrote: post #17

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Not the person you're replying to, but I'm afraid so. MacBooks are just so far ahead of their "competition" that it's not funny. The M2 MacBook Pros are about as close as you can get to a perfect laptop. Really, I wish it wasn't so. It would arguably be better for everyone (except Apple) if there was some serious competition at the top end of the market. But there just isn't. I've still yet to see another laptop that…

I agree with some of that, but none of it is worth sacrificing user freedom. Using an Apple product is being forced to use computers in exactly the way Apple designed them, with very little room for customization of the experience. This might be fine if your preferences align with Apple's, or if you just don't care, but for tinkerers and tech enthusiasts it's an oppressive and limited environment. And at the end of t…

Why is Asahi not a serious option? Linus Torvalds himself uses Asahi on an Apple Silicon Mac, that is a pretty solid endorsement of it being a serious option.

Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

#82

Post by a_vanderbilt »

jeffparsons wrote: post #17
ekianjo wrote: post #8

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Happy paying 3x more?

Not the person you're replying to, but I'm afraid so. MacBooks are just so far ahead of their "competition" that it's not funny. The M2 MacBook Pros are about as close as you can get to a perfect laptop. Really, I wish it wasn't so. It would arguably be better for everyone (except Apple) if there was some serious competition at the top end of the market. But there just isn't. I've still yet to see another laptop that…

It's an "inconvenient truth" that plenty in the saltier circles of the Linux world really don't like. Getting a good *nix environment on a laptop is a struggle. Even on lines like the ThinkPads you still have paper cuts like bad touchpads, DSP-less audio, terrible battery life, or buggy drivers making the experience unpleasant. Nothing single device has brought everything together as well as an M2 MacBook Pro, and it's a damn shame.

Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by a_vanderbilt »

wilsonnb3 wrote: post #81
imiric wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with some of that, but none of it is worth sacrificing user freedom. Using an Apple product is being forced to use computers in exactly the way Apple designed them, with very little room for customization of the experience. This might be fine if your preferences align with Apple's, or if you just don't care, but for tinkerers and tech enthusiasts it's an oppressive and limited environment. And at the end of t…

Why is Asahi not a serious option? Linus Torvalds himself uses Asahi on an Apple Silicon Mac, that is a pretty solid endorsement of it being a serious option.

The reasons appear idealogical rather than practical, which is interesting given the problem at hand.

Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by luckyshot »

mariusor wrote: post #59

I own one of the previous generations of this laptop and I want to say that the batteries are a bit of a sham (hopefully they're better in this new one). I've had to change them once a year, because they drop from 100% health to 60% in less than 12 months. Each replacement was around 80-90EUR.

I've had similar issues.

At a few months old, the laptop (a Tuxedo InfinityBook Pro 14 Gen 6) couldn't hold a meeting.

Their customer service suggested I disabled the graphics card and to throttle the CPU, converting a $2000 laptop into a $1000 one spec-wise.

After a year and a half, I've just moved to a Thinkpad at half the cost and I couldn't be happier.

I wanted to support a smaller company rather than Lenovo but that's how it is, there where many other nuances I had to deal with (2 dead pixels, awful sound, microphone was meh, TuxedoOS started giving me kernel problems every update...).

Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by dajonker »

prmoustache wrote: post #46
dajonker wrote: post #27

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No ANSI keyboard might be a deal breaker for my muscle memory and external keyboards (mechanical and MX keys that I had to import from the US because Logitech only sells ISO in the EU)

Why do you need a "specific keyboard" if your muscle memory is there? Just map it to whatever works for you. I am typing all the time in us alt international on various physical keyboards that have printed buttons in spanish qwerty, swiss french qwertz and plain ansi us keyboards. It is only a problem for those that have very little experience/use of the keyboard.

The difference between ISO and ANSI is the physical layout, i.e. the shape of the Enter key and the left shift key.

Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by xcv123 »

ekianjo wrote: post #57
jeffparsons wrote: post #17

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Not the person you're replying to, but I'm afraid so. MacBooks are just so far ahead of their "competition" that it's not funny. The M2 MacBook Pros are about as close as you can get to a perfect laptop. Really, I wish it wasn't so. It would arguably be better for everyone (except Apple) if there was some serious competition at the top end of the market. But there just isn't. I've still yet to see another laptop that…

I'll bite for some of your points. > I've still yet to see another laptop that has even passable handling of sleep states / other parts of power management. That's the advantage of Apple where they control both hardware and software. It's hard to replicate, so yeah, they have an edge here. > I've still yet to see another laptop with an even passable trackpad. Never understood this comment, if you use keyboards instea…

> and while you will hear the fan now and then

Never heard the fan on my M1 Pro in a year of ownership, and temperature is never uncomfortably high.

I'll pay double just to never hear a shitty laptop fan.

> but most of them are not matte

It is a matter of preference. Matte reduces contrast, saturation, and sharpness. I noticed Apple uses a higher quality anti-reflective coating than my other (cheap non-Apple branded) glossy desktop LCD. No distracting reflections on the laptop, but the desktop monitor looks like a mirror sometimes.

Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by Darmody »

chme wrote: post #76
Darmody wrote: post #64

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There are basically no laptops with AMD GPUs. Why? I don't know. I think in the last months I've only seen one and I don't remember it as a laptop someone would buy.

Well, this is a company that creates Linux laptops. So if they decide to offer laptops with dGPU, they might want to use hardware that is well supported by Linux. Laptops with Nvidia dGPUs are available from many/most other manufacturers, as you said, so there is no real reason to buy them from them. Especially if they offer sub-par Linux experience.

I get your point but I think this is an AMD problem.

Their can't keep up with the demand on the laptop market. How old are their Zen 4 processors? There are barely laptops with them. We had to wait months for a real use benchmark because it was impossible to get them.

Right now if I see and AMD GPU I wouldn't even know if it's new gen or from 3 years ago.

They are not on the market mobile market.

Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by imiric »

a_vanderbilt wrote: post #83
wilsonnb3 wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is Asahi not a serious option? Linus Torvalds himself uses Asahi on an Apple Silicon Mac, that is a pretty solid endorsement of it being a serious option.

The reasons appear idealogical rather than practical, which is interesting given the problem at hand.

How did you reach that conclusion? On the contrary, my reasons are purely practical. The fact Linus uses Asahi is far from an endorsement for regular users. He obviously has a much deeper knowledge of Linux compared to a regular user, with the skills to troubleshoot and fix most issues.

My reasons for not considering it:

- As skilled as the Asahi team is, they're a small team going against one of the world's largest corporations. Not only does it take immense effort to reverse engineer every single hardware component, the project will always be at the mercy of Apple, who may break the support at any time with a software or hardware update, whether willing or unwillingly.

- The Linux software ecosystem is sufficiently unstable on its own, but also running it on ARM, _and_ an alien hardware environment, presents even more challenges. As much as the Asahi team has made progress here, expecting them to support all variations of software in this landscape is unreasonable. I definitely don't want to have additional issues to troubleshoot, which I'm tired of doing with Linux to begin with. Cue the replies claiming how Asahi works flawlessly...

That's a whole lot of shaky ground to base my computing on, and I wouldn't consider it even for personal, let alone professional, use. Maybe if Apple started opening up and officially supporting Linux on their hardware, I _might_ consider a project like Asahi, but until then, it's a non-starter for me.

Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by xcv123 »

imiric wrote: post #88
a_vanderbilt wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reasons appear idealogical rather than practical, which is interesting given the problem at hand.

How did you reach that conclusion? On the contrary, my reasons are purely practical. The fact Linus uses Asahi is far from an endorsement for regular users. He obviously has a much deeper knowledge of Linux compared to a regular user, with the skills to troubleshoot and fix most issues. My reasons for not considering it: - As skilled as the Asahi team is, they're a small team going against one of the world's largest…

> expecting them to support all variations of software in this landscape is unreasonable.

They don't support variations of software at all. They support the hardware. If the drivers work then the software just works. Software is built on APIs. Asahi does not need to support applications.

> always be at the mercy of Apple, who may break the support at any time

Same deal for any other hardware manufacturer. The x86 PC manufacturers are still using proprietary undocumented hardware components to this day, even the ones who you believe are "officially" supporting Linux. It only works because devs are reverse engineering devices without support from the manufacturers.

> but also running it on ARM, _and_ an alien hardware environment, presents even more challenges

ARM is a stable well supported platform for Linux, so the CPU is less of an issue for Asahi devs. Graphics hardware is somewhat "Alien" but is also stable now on Asahi.

Re: Tuxedo Pulse Gen 3

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Post by Klonoar »

ekianjo wrote: post #54
Klonoar wrote: post #20

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It is a literal drop in the bucket. It's like a mattress: you spend enough time on it that it's worth paying the money and moving on.

> It is a literal drop in the bucket. That's a very first world comment

Yup. It’s not wrong though.
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