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Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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Amazon knows all about of the garbage being sold on its site but only does something about it if you're a massive tech company who threatens to sue, very cool. I wonder how many of these thumb drives are legit. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=2+tb+thumb+drive&crid=YZ410MSN6L1...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CMBX671V/

I wonder whether they used Samsung's factory tooling for that.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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I returned my unopened Apple Watch to Amazon. Getting my money back has been a massive pain. Usually Amazon literally returns the money when the delivery person picks up the item from my doorstep. But with this Amazon required a scheduled pickup with UPS, did not acknowledge receiving the item even though UPS showed it as received and a few weeks later they are still asking me to wait for 1 month before contacting th…

I think it is likely that they are trying to see if the watch you returned was counterfeit before they refunded you. This is probably a difficult process as the counterfeits of Apple products have gotten really good.

When you pushed them, they bumped yours to the front of the line.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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post #18

Amazon knows all about of the garbage being sold on its site but only does something about it if you're a massive tech company who threatens to sue, very cool. I wonder how many of these thumb drives are legit. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=2+tb+thumb+drive&crid=YZ410MSN6L1...

First one I clicked into, Amazon’s own AI generated review summary says “…it takes days to transfer anything, and has only 64 GB of usable space. Customers also dislike the data.”

People in my world goggle at me when I say I don’t shop on Amazon, but whenever I do go on there I couldn’t be happier not to be paying for the privilege of combing through all of that garbage. (Amazon Visa rewards card holder since 2007 and had Prime 2010-2019)

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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my question is why hasn't the FBI seized every Amazon warehouse for knowingly selling counterfeit goods? They do this routinely for smaller businesses selling fake stuff

Because they don't "knowingly sell counterfeit goods". Amazon employees don't create these listings, other people do. Someone that "knowingly sells counterfeit goods" is humanly aware that a specific item they are selling is counterfeit, and decide to sell it anyway, which is not the case here. These listings are taken down whack-a-mole style as Amazon is made humanly aware of their existence.

Try that argument with the Silk Road. Has Apple or Amazon hired or solicited hitmen? Probably.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

my question is why hasn't the FBI seized every Amazon warehouse for knowingly selling counterfeit goods? They do this routinely for smaller businesses selling fake stuff

Because they don't "knowingly sell counterfeit goods". Amazon employees don't create these listings, other people do. Someone that "knowingly sells counterfeit goods" is humanly aware that a specific item they are selling is counterfeit, and decide to sell it anyway, which is not the case here. These listings are taken down whack-a-mole style as Amazon is made humanly aware of their existence.

That sounds like using scale as an excuse.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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my question is why hasn't the FBI seized every Amazon warehouse for knowingly selling counterfeit goods? They do this routinely for smaller businesses selling fake stuff

> my question is why hasn't the FBI seized every Amazon warehouse for knowingly selling counterfeit goods? What government would kill the goose that lays golden eggs? They pay tax. Buyers pay tax. Huge amount (but not that much as I expected [0]). What else is needed? 0 - https://www.investopedia.com/insights/amazon-effect-us-econo...

Where did I hear that - "We are a nation of laws"?

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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post #85

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Because they don't "knowingly sell counterfeit goods". Amazon employees don't create these listings, other people do. Someone that "knowingly sells counterfeit goods" is humanly aware that a specific item they are selling is counterfeit, and decide to sell it anyway, which is not the case here. These listings are taken down whack-a-mole style as Amazon is made humanly aware of their existence.

That sounds like using scale as an excuse.

The law is the problem.

The law requires explicit knowledge, so Amazon can get away with it.

I don’t agree with it, but lawmakers should be making these changes.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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If it's true they colluded to remove ads from Apple pages on Amazon, both companies deserve what they get. Why do it sneakily? Why not have a page somewhere on Amazon that says "hey, if you want us to remove ads from your product listings, pay us [10x the total lifetime amount we expect to get in ad revenue from running ads on the page] per product page". Most companies wouldn't do it, so it wouldn't change Amazon's…

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Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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If it's true they colluded to remove ads from Apple pages on Amazon, both companies deserve what they get. Why do it sneakily? Why not have a page somewhere on Amazon that says "hey, if you want us to remove ads from your product listings, pay us [10x the total lifetime amount we expect to get in ad revenue from running ads on the page] per product page". Most companies wouldn't do it, so it wouldn't change Amazon's…

> If it's true they colluded to remove ads from Apple pages on Amazon

Amazon is not the only company to do this. Not sure how reducing ads is problematic. Amazon doesn't have to show ads it doesn't want to.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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In fact, there are, as in much of Big Box retail.

There's store-within-a-store, but it's not really the same thing as a marketplace, and not the type of thing where any provider dominates the market enough to have a monopolistic power on it.

A large part of what you see on shelves are not the retailer's, but are on consignment from the manufacturer.

The manufacturer also pays for the product to be displayed, with different rates for different positioning.

The limit is physical space on the storefront, and that's a problem that Amazon doesn't have.

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