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Re: First Apple M3 Pro Benchmarks Show Surprisingly Low Multi-Core Gains over M2 Pro

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Post by elAhmo » Wed, Nov 08, 2023, 1:30 PM UTC

rsynnott wrote: post #79

michaelt wrote: post #17

> The M2 was launched in June 2022, but the Pro and Max launched in January 2023. They're not even a year old and have already been relegated to the trash heap of silicon history. It stands to reason the M2 chips didn't sell very well, so Apple wanted to get the M3 out ASAP to reverse that trend. That theory would make a lot more sense if the M3 was providing a big performance boost. Instead buyers of the M3 Pro get…

> Not much to reinvigorate sales by motivating M2 Pro users to upgrade other than a higher number. Do you, in 2023, know _anyone_ who replaces their laptop every year? Realistically, virtually no-one does this; the primary market for this is actually people who are still on Intel chips.

Exactly! I am about to upgrade from M1 Air to the new M3 pro, and although the gains will not be as huge as from Intel - ARM, I still expect a significant upgrade for a ~3 year old laptop.

Re: First Apple M3 Pro Benchmarks Show Surprisingly Low Multi-Core Gains over M2 Pro

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Post by acdha » Wed, Nov 08, 2023, 2:08 PM UTC

ajross wrote: post #36

JohnBooty wrote: post #30

"The first Apple M3 Pro chip benchmarks have leaked! It’s actually slower than the M2 Max based on margin of error. M3 Pro: 15,173 M2 Max: 15,242" An alternate, and in my opinion more accurate and relevant, way of phrasing this would be: "Very cool! The new *mid-level* chips perform as well (within In what world is this not a good thing? Pretty solid annual incremental upgrade. Of course I understand why people are u…

People are picking on that lede tweet somewhat unfairly. Numbers in the rest of the article say that the same benchmark run between the two "pro" variants improves only 6%. And that's actually quite disappointing for a chip that's supposed to be a on a new semiconductor node. Not a lot of people make a laptop purchase decision over 6%. > Look at the annual incremental performance increases seen from AMD and Intel and…

> Not a lot of people make a laptop purchase decision over 6%.

How many people make laptop purchase decisions over performance any more? I’d think the GPU boost and things like AV1 are going to matter more, which is probably why Apple focused on them.

Re: First Apple M3 Pro Benchmarks Show Surprisingly Low Multi-Core Gains over M2 Pro

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Post by FireBeyond » Wed, Nov 08, 2023, 4:22 PM UTC

thejazzman wrote: post #77

FireBeyond wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like the M3 has been a bit of a misfire, launch-wise. In between all this and the fact that they're all shipping with Ventura and cannot be upgraded to Sonoma yet to me says that for all the claims of "Apple may not be first, but it will always do it best/right" are evaporating. Seems like this is a bit of a rush. And to all the people working the "They're comparing it to the M1, because that's who they're tar…

They can be upgraded to Sonoma. It's just a bug that has already been addressed...

Never implied anything different.

Just not a good look. I can imagine there'd be howls of laughter from some corners if Microsoft released a new Surface tablet and said "BTW, it will come with Windows 10 and there's a bug that won't let you upgrade to Windows 11 until we fix it..."