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Re: New models and developer products

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Post by atleastoptimal »

whytai wrote: post #71

Every day this video ages more and more poorly [1]. categories of startups that will be affected by these launches: - vectorDB startups -> don't need embeddings anymore - file processing startups -> don't need to process files anymore - fine tuning startups -> can fine tune directly from the platform now, with GPT4 fine tuning coming - cost reduction startups -> they literally lowered prices and increased rate limits…

There will be a lot of startups who rely on marketing aggressively to boomer-led companies who don't know what email is and hoping their assistant never types OpenAI into Google for them.

Re: New models and developer products

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Post by [deleted] »

whytai wrote: post #71

Every day this video ages more and more poorly [1]. categories of startups that will be affected by these launches: - vectorDB startups -> don't need embeddings anymore - file processing startups -> don't need to process files anymore - fine tuning startups -> can fine tune directly from the platform now, with GPT4 fine tuning coming - cost reduction startups -> they literally lowered prices and increased rate limits…

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Re: New models and developer products

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Post by anotherpaulg »

tornato7 wrote: post #78

According to [1], the new gpt-4-1106-preview model should be available to all, but the API is telling me "The model `gpt-4-1106-preview` does not exist or you do not have access to it." Anyone able to call it from the API? 1. https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8555510-gpt-4-turbo

Same. I am eager to run my code editing benchmark [1] against it, to compare it with gpt-4-0314 and gpt-4-0613.

Edit: Ha, I just re-read the announcement [2] and it says 1pm in the 5th sentence:

  We’ll begin rolling out new features to OpenAI customers starting at 1pm PT today.
[1] https://aider.chat/docs/benchmarks.html

[2] https://openai.com/blog/new-models-and-developer-products-an...

Re: New models and developer products

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Post by yawnxyz »

whytai wrote: post #71

Every day this video ages more and more poorly [1]. categories of startups that will be affected by these launches: - vectorDB startups -> don't need embeddings anymore - file processing startups -> don't need to process files anymore - fine tuning startups -> can fine tune directly from the platform now, with GPT4 fine tuning coming - cost reduction startups -> they literally lowered prices and increased rate limits…

i'm excited for the open source, local inferencing tech to catchup. The bar's been raised.

Re: New models and developer products

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Post by vsareto »

minimaxir wrote: post #4

Most of the products announced (and the price cuts) appear to be more about increasing lock-in to the OpenAI API platform, which is not surprising given increased competition in the space. The GPTs/GPT Agents and Assistants demos in particular showed that they are a black box within a black box within a black box that you can't port anywhere else. I'm mixed on the presentation and will need to read the fine print on…

>The GPTs/GPT Agents and Assistants demos in particular showed that they are a black box within a black box within a black box that you can't port anywhere else.

This just rings hollow to me. We lost the fights for database portability, cloud portability, payments/billing portability, and other individual SaaS lock-in. I don't see why it'll be different this time around.

Re: New models and developer products

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Post by naiv »

tornato7 wrote: post #78

According to [1], the new gpt-4-1106-preview model should be available to all, but the API is telling me "The model `gpt-4-1106-preview` does not exist or you do not have access to it." Anyone able to call it from the API? 1. https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8555510-gpt-4-turbo

rumours on x are that it will be available 1pm san francisco time

Re: New models and developer products

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Post by morkalork »

whytai wrote: post #71

Every day this video ages more and more poorly [1]. categories of startups that will be affected by these launches: - vectorDB startups -> don't need embeddings anymore - file processing startups -> don't need to process files anymore - fine tuning startups -> can fine tune directly from the platform now, with GPT4 fine tuning coming - cost reduction startups -> they literally lowered prices and increased rate limits…

If you want to be a start-up using AI, you have to be in another industry with access to data and a market that OpenAI/MS/Google can't or won't touch. Otherwise you end up eaten like above.

Re: New models and developer products

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Post by tekacs »

naiv wrote: post #86
tornato7 wrote: post #78

According to [1], the new gpt-4-1106-preview model should be available to all, but the API is telling me "The model `gpt-4-1106-preview` does not exist or you do not have access to it." Anyone able to call it from the API? 1. https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8555510-gpt-4-turbo

rumours on x are that it will be available 1pm san francisco time

> We’ll begin rolling out new features to OpenAI customers starting at 1pm PT today.

^ It says exactly this in the linked article.

Re: New models and developer products

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Post by colordrops »

whytai wrote: post #71

Every day this video ages more and more poorly [1]. categories of startups that will be affected by these launches: - vectorDB startups -> don't need embeddings anymore - file processing startups -> don't need to process files anymore - fine tuning startups -> can fine tune directly from the platform now, with GPT4 fine tuning coming - cost reduction startups -> they literally lowered prices and increased rate limits…

I haven't been paying attention, why are embeddings not needed anymore?
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