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Re: F*** Paywalls

#81

We don't want to pay and we don't want to watch ads - still, we want to consume the content. I mean, I get the sentiment, I also share it to a great degree. But how are websites supposed to stay afloat?

The irony is that someone paid for a 3 letters domain + infrastructure to keep this running for free.

Re: F*** Paywalls

#82
post #38

Be like me. Flag every paywall article that ends up on hackernews

But I wonder if it's not always intentional as maybe ad blockers kill some of paywalls some times?

Re: F*** Paywalls

#83

20 years of World Wide Web and we still don't have micropayments so we can just pay a penny to read an article. Why does it take us so long?

Academic press let's you do that, but it's insanely expensive for each article you want to read.

Greed or not, it's always going to be a bit more than a price you would accept.

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#84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

News vendors don't want you to pay for individual articles you're interested in. They want you to pay for all the articles, including the shitty ones, every month.

And then cram down their bias down your throat, with you paying. Whether it’s sponsored placements or interest group’s lobbying. I mean, there is no money to make in neutrality anyway.

You think the bias is bad now? It'd be 10x worse if readers paid by the article. Have we not learned about audience capture by now?

Re: F*** Paywalls

#85
post #2

How is this different from archive.org?

It doesn't have the be different, it just has to be interesting so we can talk about it, right? Come on, it's Saturday, let's just discuss the thing based on its own merits.

Not hating on it genuine question since i am familiar with the other product. Just want to know the pitch for why i should try it out

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#86

20 years of World Wide Web and we still don't have micropayments so we can just pay a penny to read an article. Why does it take us so long?

Nobody will accept real micro payments. It is a pipe dream. As soon as such monetization system is deployed the prices will start at 5$ to read an article and will increase even more in the subsequent years. Why? Because people will pay.

Have you seen video games monetization? Over past 15-20 years we have rapidly passed the price threshold of 20-30$ per whole game, then per half of a game, then a quarter of a game, then a complete single character in a game, then a costume for a character, then only a single clothing item for a single costume for a single character, then a chance of that. Currently gacha games which have multiple hundreds of characters ask between a a few hundreds of dollars and a few thousands for a single character (best case, worst - for a chance of one).

Re: F*** Paywalls

#87
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One reason: it wouldn't be a penny. You're off by a factor of probably 100.

Ads pay pennies though. So maybe he's merely off by a factor of 5?

Humans pay more though. Nobody will be interested in collecting 1c from hundred million of unloyal readers, prone to changing information providers because then they aren't chained with a yearly sub which can be only cancelled via an international 2-3 hour call to the USA for the price of a whole sub. Journal would sooner get that money from the loyal 100000 readers who will pay 1$ per article. But wait, why do that when they can change 10-20$ per article from 10000 and throw some meaningless loyalty program to them?

Even better, do the american healthcare trick - set a price at say 1000$ per article but allow only big corpos to have some opaque bulk discounts for their employees. Thus maximizing money extraction from richest customers.

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#88

Here's a thought... Why not let the paying subscribers promote content they especially like to the commons? So, if you're a paying member, you get to read everything like it works today. But you also get a steady flow of tips. If you like an article, you can tip the author directly, which comes out of your monthly subscription. Once a given article gets enough tips, it's permanently unlocked for every visitor. Basica…

And flood literally every website with affiliate links produced by scripts. After a few years of the program the 99% of tip flows will be concentrated for a handful of best "influencers" and the rest will see some funny microscopic numbers. Then tip amounts will be adjusted based on the top earners (down of course) and the rest will see shift of amounts into nanodollars.

Re: F*** Paywalls

#90

20 years of World Wide Web and we still don't have micropayments so we can just pay a penny to read an article. Why does it take us so long?

This only works with: 1. Common authenticated and identy system 2. That system makes the payments, already linked to your source eg card or bank

I.e. you need something like WeChat pay or Alipay. Can't work in the west. PayPal sucks

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