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Re: uBlock Origin 1.53

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Post by jeron »

chii wrote: post #69
spartanatreyu wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the last year, youtube anti-ad-block only ever occurred to me once and I fixed it in 2 minutes by reading the instructions on that github issue. All I had to do was manually trigger an update for uBlock Origin's filter lists then restart firefox. The filter lists update automatically, but a new youtube change got around them and the filter had a fix inside an hour (too short a time for my extension to auto-update…

This has been continuing for the past couple months. I don't see youtube giving up tbh, and i don't see how uBO can continue to maintain a manually constructed filter every time a new mechanism is added/altered in youtube. This is different to other ads, which is a crowdsourced list of filters, and isn't on a small or single individual to keep up. There must be a better way to utilize the crowd to make it work.

> i don't see how uBO can continue to maintain a manually constructed filter every time a new mechanism is added/altered in youtube

Don’t underestimate what open source can and will do just to spite things they despise

Re: uBlock Origin 1.53

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Post by arpanetus »

Already__Taken wrote: post #59
codeflo wrote: post #48

From the “uBO works best in Firefox” page, I found this gem: > Firefox will wait for uBO to be ready before sending network requests from already opened tab(s) at browser launch. > In Chromium-based browsers, this is not the case. Tracker/advertisement payloads may find their way into already opened tabs before uBO is ready, while Firefox will properly filter these. That’s a hell of a “bug” in Chromium, that blocker…

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If you want your Chrome to be as fast as possible, you would get rid of all extensions you have. It doesn't matter even if it's an adblock atp.

Hence calling it a feature, not a bug is rather misleading. Since you went and installed plugins understanding that it might and it will affect your workflow.

Re: uBlock Origin 1.53

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Post by skrebbel »

jchook wrote: post #54
beej71 wrote: post #16

"uBO works best on Firefox". I can't say I'm totally shocked that getting it working better under Chrome is somehow more difficult.

Chrome now aggressively blocks ad blockers on YouTube.com

Hmmm source?

I know youtube does but I didnt know Chrome does.

Re: uBlock Origin 1.53

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Post by arpanetus »

arbol wrote: post #66
iamalchemist wrote: post #35

How is UBO on Google Chrome different than Brave browser? Context - I've used UBO on Google Chrome in the past and now using Brave browser for the last few years. I don't see much difference how web feels with UBO and Brave.

Brave ad blocker is not as good as UBO. You need to install UBO if you use brave.

I switched to Brave from Chromium + UBO. Despite seeing some ads, it's still comfier to use vanilla Brave than Chromium + UBO.

Re: uBlock Origin 1.53

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Post by globular-toast »

all2 wrote: post #12
flakes wrote: post #9

I've been using uBlock since shortly after it launched, and I'd rather lose access to all Google services than not have an ad blocker. I seriously question how people use a browser without one. Completely changes how the web feels.

This. I've pretty much stopped using YouTube since the adblocker blocker shut me out. I figure it's a good time to kick a bad habit. :D

Same. I have accidentally clicked links a few times and, interestingly, I haven't seen the anti adblock message again despite not updating the uBlock filters.

For the information that only seems to be available on YouTube I use Invidious.

Re: uBlock Origin 1.53

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Post by avereveard »

PeterStuer wrote: post #43
all2 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. I've pretty much stopped using YouTube since the adblocker blocker shut me out. I figure it's a good time to kick a bad habit. :D

To be fair Youtube has to make a profit somehow. Ad revenue, direct and/or through profile data collection is easy and effective but the worst businessmodel for human sanity. I like that they at least offer an alternative for the ad viewing part through Youtube premium. I don't know about the US as streaming services seem to have catalogues orders of magnitude more extensive than over here in Europe, but compared to…

Well I use to have them on whitelist for all these reason, but a) lately the amount of ads has gotten crazy and b) a large amount of videos are fraudulently copyright striken and revenue stolen from creators https://www.streemtunes.com/post/how-did-pewdiepie-get-a-cop...

I think it's egregious how YouTube treats content creators in general and how expect us to foot the content distribution bills in particular, especially since many of the video themselves are ads (they include product placement, or are straight up teasers for products)

I think there's a case to be made at least for non indies to pay proportionally to the minute viewed of their content, to decrease the pressure on monetizing indies.

Re: uBlock Origin 1.53

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Post by leloctai »

codeflo wrote: post #48

From the “uBO works best in Firefox” page, I found this gem: > Firefox will wait for uBO to be ready before sending network requests from already opened tab(s) at browser launch. > In Chromium-based browsers, this is not the case. Tracker/advertisement payloads may find their way into already opened tabs before uBO is ready, while Firefox will properly filter these. That’s a hell of a “bug” in Chromium, that blocker…

Which is a horrible design on Android. Firefox on my (admittedly relatively old) phone take 20s to load the first page when browser start with uBlock enabled. On desktop this is fine as it only happen once a day. But on the phone it happen a lot since apps getting killed is a normal thing.

Re: uBlock Origin 1.53

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Post by autoexec »

hellotheretoday wrote: post #65
smartusers wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just going to push the smart people with self respect to other platforms. YouTube will then cater to the captive ad tolerant audience that's left and the quality of the whole platform will degrade. More people will leave, the quality will drop, the number of ads will go up, etc. This will reduce the quality of video on YouTube until what you basically have now on reddit: a hot trash fire. Sure you can milk these…

Can that progression even happen anymore? Call me cynical but I think we are long past the days of “the digg migration to Reddit”, “MySpace exodus to Facebook”, leaving vbulletin forums en masse for social media, leaving irc and Usenet for vbulletin forums, etc How could a viable competitor to YouTube even begin to pull away YouTube’s inertia without massive vc funding? That VC would want the platform to eventually e…

> How could a viable competitor to YouTube even begin to pull away YouTube’s inertia without massive vc funding?

I think it depends on what people are trying to do with youtube. I doubt any one new service could replace all of it. Plenty of people want to share videos but aren't looking to get rich from it though. For them, I think a competitor that does video delivery well, but doesn't pay for views could exist.

People who want to make videos for money would have a harder time replacing google, but lots of creators get direct support already so it isn't hopeless. A lot of people are already on multiple platforms now too so it doesn't have to be a hard cut off.

Re: uBlock Origin 1.53

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Post by Daviey »

all2 wrote: post #12
flakes wrote: post #9

I've been using uBlock since shortly after it launched, and I'd rather lose access to all Google services than not have an ad blocker. I seriously question how people use a browser without one. Completely changes how the web feels.

This. I've pretty much stopped using YouTube since the adblocker blocker shut me out. I figure it's a good time to kick a bad habit. :D

Oddly, I had the soft warning first.. then 3 views until blocked warning... and now, nothing. Working like it did before. Strange. I don't feel relaxed yet, but it seems they back-off if you hold-out, for now.

Re: uBlock Origin 1.53

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Post by danielbln »

leloctai wrote: post #87
codeflo wrote: post #48

From the “uBO works best in Firefox” page, I found this gem: > Firefox will wait for uBO to be ready before sending network requests from already opened tab(s) at browser launch. > In Chromium-based browsers, this is not the case. Tracker/advertisement payloads may find their way into already opened tabs before uBO is ready, while Firefox will properly filter these. That’s a hell of a “bug” in Chromium, that blocker…

Which is a horrible design on Android. Firefox on my (admittedly relatively old) phone take 20s to load the first page when browser start with uBlock enabled. On desktop this is fine as it only happen once a day. But on the phone it happen a lot since apps getting killed is a normal thing.

My 4 year old S10E does not exhibit this behavior at all (Firefox with uBlock).
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