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Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by qwertox »

Daz1 wrote: post #6

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My apologies to you, but last time I logged into Facebook through a VPN (my network has all the IP ranges of Meta blocked), which was about 1.5 months ago, I got served ads that were exactly the kind of thing I hate about when scum gets to publish advertising on a global platform without the platform checking it. These where among the first 5 ads shown.

I made screenshots just to be able to show them to people like you.

For context:

Image 1 and 2 are successful and popular persons in Germany.

"He didn't know his mic was on. Is his career over now?"

"The scandal which is shocking the entire world, Stefan Raab didn't know that the camera was filming"

Image 3: Attractive women with 6 fingers because they were made with Stable Diffusion

https://imgur.com/a/tm3wQs2 (excludes 3rd image)

https://imgur.com/a/9Q9YI4b (requires accepting 18+, but it is sfw)

Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by password4321 »

cheriot wrote: post #38
PostOnce wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody is opposed to relevant ads on TV (I mean, not any more than they're opposed to ads in general). it's the means by which they make them relevant. No one would be cool if Facebook sent agents to your home each night to rifle through your drawers to learn about you and "tailor ads to you and make them more relevant". That's the problem, the data-collecting and spying.

I don't get the analogy. Facebook is using data you give them when using the app. How is that similar to invading your home?

Also offline:

Facebook is combining the information they have with information from data collection companies like Datalogix, Acxiom, Epsilon, and BlueKai

...

way more than you'd think, including race, gender, economic status, buying habits, and more

https://lifehacker.com/how-facebook-uses-your-data-to-target... (2013)

Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by xwolfi »

throwaway447 wrote: post #5
exabrial wrote: post #3

If i travel to the eu as an American does that mean it’s illegal to track me while present in their territory? Would I be able to sue them and which country would be most favorable for the largest payout if so? I’m happy to write their support team an email letting them know my intentions to travel (lol).

I am not a lawyer. "If i travel to the eu as an American does that mean it’s illegal to track me while present in their territory?" Yes. "Would I be able to sue them" You can sue any time but only makes sense if meta does something illegal. "and which country would be most favorable for the largest payout if so?" If Meta breaks the EU law you would likely have to sue in the country were you were present. Could also b…

And when you sue you must justify a damage. You dont sue on principle when no damage was inflicted upon you. For instance if someone runs a camera in the street and always delete the footage, sure it s not legal per se, he tracked you, but since he actually always deleted the footage, you cant well ask for any compensation for any damage: how will the judge repair your tort ?

Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by jurynulifcation »

vivekd wrote: post #61
PostOnce wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody is opposed to relevant ads on TV (I mean, not any more than they're opposed to ads in general). it's the means by which they make them relevant. No one would be cool if Facebook sent agents to your home each night to rifle through your drawers to learn about you and "tailor ads to you and make them more relevant". That's the problem, the data-collecting and spying.

I donno, I know I'm in the minority but I agree with the parent. Facebook isn't going to people's homes and rifling through drawers. They're using information people willigly share in their profiles. They're not selling personally identifiable information. They're selling generalized group info on categories people fall into for targeted ads. I don't understand how this is a privacy violation or unethical. Especially…

lmao no, you're either misinformed or a bad actor. when they start tracking me through services they don't own, when they retain data on me indefinitely and purchase other data sources to do entity resolution, when they refuse to let me see what they have on me and refuse to let me set policies on what I'm comfortable with them having, when they partner with Walmart and CCTV providers to spy on me as I go throughout my business when they literally try to predict my behavior with the data they have on me, when they sell my data without my permission to God knows who... they're filthy degenerate stalkers and anyone who works in the industry ought to be shunned by polite society. we should not suffer stalkers.

Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by lopatin »

falcor84 wrote: post #80
lopatin wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes a targeted ad the same as psychological manipulation?

Advertising is pretty much psychological manipulation by its very definition. Targeted advertising is manipulation targeted directly at my psyche.

Sure, we can say that advertising in general is psychological manipulation. But that isn't what ajkjk was saying. They were ok with advertising, but not ok with targeted ads.

> they should show fewer ads that don't fuck with our heads

If I'm shown an ad that caters to my taste in software and horror movies, I don't consider that to be fucking with my head.

Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by nusq »

exabrial wrote: post #3

If i travel to the eu as an American does that mean it’s illegal to track me while present in their territory? Would I be able to sue them and which country would be most favorable for the largest payout if so? I’m happy to write their support team an email letting them know my intentions to travel (lol).

No, RGPD only applies to EU citizens even if they are abroad or if they are using services not based in the EU.
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