They kept mentioning performance relative to intel Macs which makes me think there is a large cohort of people sticking to their x86 rigs due to compatibility. Being able to run an x86 linux or windows VM is still a requirement for me.
Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max
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Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max
#82Am I the only one shaking my head that they kept comparing the M3 chips against M1 chips skipping M2? Just like the last product release spent more time on huffing their own farts (the Apple Watch is the first of its kind carbon negative product), there is no real innovation or something to garner interest for me here.
Way more people bought in to M1 than M2, so they're a bigger customer base to sell to. But didn't I see something about M3 being 2x faster than M2? I'm sure that's some BS about it being 2x faster in a specific benchmark. But I'm sure it's still a good generational improvement.
Edit: I love seeing what HN will downvote. Absolutely hilarious.
Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max
#83Am I the only one shaking my head that they kept comparing the M3 chips against M1 chips skipping M2? Just like the last product release spent more time on huffing their own farts (the Apple Watch is the first of its kind carbon negative product), there is no real innovation or something to garner interest for me here.
I guess they are seeing too many M1s in the wild - you're supposed to upgrade to a new Apple device a d create e-waste.
Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max
#84What's with the 36 GB option? The other memory configs (16 GB, 64 GB) are still clean powers of two. Size suggests that they're using ECC-capable memory but using the extra width intended to support ECC for data... but why would this only apply to a single size? Part availability? EDIT: Digging this a bit, it's not (one or more) 72-bit wide busses with 2^32 words as I'd expect as a gray-beard, it's (probably) six 32-…
They've been doing more multiples of 6/12 lately, I supposed it's related to the available chip sizes for the LPDDR5X. M2 and M3 go up to 24GB M3 Pro is available in 18GB and 36GB M3 Max is available in 36GB, 48GB, 64GB, 96GB, and 128GB
Why do I need to select the most expensive M3 Max version (the one with 16 cores) to get 48 or 64 gigs of RAM. The M3 Max with 14 cores only allow 36 or 96 gigs. Just let me choose 14 cores and 64 gigs.
Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max
#85What's the deal with "dynamic caching"? I wish they would have talked about it more. It sounds like they're reducing memory allocations by only allocating what is actually needed.
Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Calling it evil is a bit of a stretch.
Is it? Its pretty evil to overcharge and prey on a customer base who doesn't know any better, but would benefit from a more usable starting point, oh say 16... Tims a finance guy, they are kinda evil by default.
Yeah, Apple customers tend to also just "trust Apple" and get whatever the recommended product is for their price point. Half the reason I find this troubling is ewaste, the other half is I'm sick of having to try to explain RAM to my MIL and ask how many tabs they keep open when asked which computer she should buy. If they had a better baseline memory (16gb) or a simple inexpensive upgrade that's the second option in the lineup instead of the higher storage cost, it'd be a simple, one-sentence "get that one".
Even having to upgrade the RAM is a hassle when price comparing etc. They know this and it's - by design - misleading to the type of affluent less-tech-friendly users who prefer Apple products.
Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max
#87Am I the only one shaking my head that they kept comparing the M3 chips against M1 chips skipping M2? Just like the last product release spent more time on huffing their own farts (the Apple Watch is the first of its kind carbon negative product), there is no real innovation or something to garner interest for me here.
Not real innovation (when comparing with Windows world) but having support for hardware raytracing now is definitely nice for games.
However, then on the information page they show Myst. Doesn't look spectacular to be honest, probably doesn't make use of hardware raytracing anyways. Having a short video of a fast-paced shooter with hardware ray-tracing support would be more impressive.
I guess it will take some time until games will adopt new Metal graphic APIs for hardware raytracing.
Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max
#88It's frustrating that they don't refresh the whole line at once. I'm in the market for a new mac mini but now I feel forced to hold off until it gets its refresh.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here in EU, the price I get in the local Apple Store is 2029€ = $2153.
You will need to convince your politicians to lower import duties and taxes. And that $1599 USD is without taxes. So not the whole US has this price. It was always worth for me to travel to Oregon to have zero tax.
It usually comes with a 2 year warranty, which adds to the costs.
Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max
#90Am I the only one shaking my head that they kept comparing the M3 chips against M1 chips skipping M2? Just like the last product release spent more time on huffing their own farts (the Apple Watch is the first of its kind carbon negative product), there is no real innovation or something to garner interest for me here.
Are they not supposed to make comparisons? I don't understand what alternative you would like.