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Sessionic: A cross-browser extension to save, manage, restore tabs and sessions

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Re: Sessionic: A cross-browser extension to save, manage, restore tabs and sessions

#82

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> I have ~350 tabs open … stock browsers suck I can’t but think of https://xkcd.com/1172 Products are designed with a certain workflow in mind. Back when people would open a website at a time, nobody needed tabs. Now everyone uses tabs, but relatively no one needs to organize their tabs. It’s acceptable that browser don’t make their UI extra complex for a vocal minority.

I have no data, but I'd hazard a guess that more people regularly have >12 tabs open than those who don't. I can't remember a time where I didn't open every link in a new window in the days prior to tabs. Back button navigation is chaos.

It's definitely true that it's very common to have a lot of tabs open, my mother's iPad has 99+ tabs open at all times, but that's not because she needs them.

Browser vendors have dealt with that by adding a "tab expiration" setting, where tabs can be deleted after a certain amount of days. I think it's a fantastic idea, just like a self-emptying trash bin.

Unless your job is specifically to collect information, then you probably don't have time to comb through everything you find online. While it's easy to want to catalog everything, the sanest option is to default on our digital debts frequently.

Re: Sessionic: A cross-browser extension to save, manage, restore tabs and sessions

#83
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tabs are not files. If you need to save things, use bookmarks. If you don’t, don’t keep clutter around. Do you still keep all the files in the download folder since 2013?

> If you need to save things, use bookmarks my losses: - time spent copying the information, even more so to have the same subgroups/order - losing that order when you regroup tabs during continuous work - harder navigation as now I need an extra "bookmarks" UI instead of existing tab lista What would the universal gains be that would justify this? > If you don’t, don’t keep clutter around. Did you notice the word 's…

> - harder navigation as now I need an extra "bookmarks" UI instead of existing tab lista

This is an HN thread about an extension that offers extra UI to save, manage your tabs. It's evident that the one-line-of-tabs UI is not enough for your use case.

Bookmarks already definitely have better UX for organization, they can even be renamed, tagged, searched… natively!

> Did you notice the word 'sessions' in the title? That's for organizing

My point is that you can store your "sessions" in a bookmarks folder. Browsers have made it excessively easy to "save all tabs" and "open all bookmarks" already. "Saving a tab session" is literally indistinguishable from "Saving all tabs as bookmarks", you're just duplicating a native browser feature by installing a 3rd party extension that has access to your entire browser history.

Re: Sessionic: A cross-browser extension to save, manage, restore tabs and sessions

#84
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you need to save things, use bookmarks my losses: - time spent copying the information, even more so to have the same subgroups/order - losing that order when you regroup tabs during continuous work - harder navigation as now I need an extra "bookmarks" UI instead of existing tab lista What would the universal gains be that would justify this? > If you don’t, don’t keep clutter around. Did you notice the word 's…

> - harder navigation as now I need an extra "bookmarks" UI instead of existing tab lista This is an HN thread about an extension that offers extra UI to save, manage your tabs. It's evident that the one-line-of-tabs UI is not enough for your use case. Bookmarks already definitely have better UX for organization, they can even be renamed, tagged, searched… natively! > Did you notice the word 'sessions' in the title?…

> This is an HN thread about an extension that offers extra UI to save, manage your tabs.

But your misunderstanding was much broader, and I'm responding to that. This extension is bad since it doesn't allow auto-sync, but that's not relevant to your promotion of bookmarks

> Bookmarks already definitely have better UX for organization, they can even be renamed, tagged, searched… natively!

only if you ignore the issues that make them worse UX for organizations that I've already mentioned in the list, specifically

> losing that order when you regroup tabs during continuous work

This is a critical difference between "retain your working SESSION at the latest point your worked on it" and "Saving all tabs as bookmarks" that you just ignore

also,

> they can even be renamed, tagged, searched… natively!

How to you add multiple tags in Safari ... natively?

Re: Sessionic: A cross-browser extension to save, manage, restore tabs and sessions

#85
post #81

If it's possible, Android support would be so so great because currently Android Firefox has absolutely zero tab management addon.

I am on android firefox and I can see on my tabs list the third option allows me to sync tabs - this isn't what you're after?

Re: Sessionic: A cross-browser extension to save, manage, restore tabs and sessions

#86
post #80

Unfortunately I can not find any session manager that can compete with Session Buddy: * Tab Session Manager loads ALL of the sessions when you bring up the interface, in my case causing it to consume all of the CPU for a good couple of minutes. * Tab Session Manager does not present me with currently open incognito windows and tabs. * Sessionic opens tabs in NEW normal (not-incognito) windows when you click on them.…

Session buddy for some reason ends up w/fairly high processor usage, especially if you keep the session page open. I created a local fork that stripped out tracking, slowing down updates, and automatically closing the session page and it it works much better for my needs.

Re: Sessionic: A cross-browser extension to save, manage, restore tabs and sessions

#87
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you need to save things, use bookmarks my losses: - time spent copying the information, even more so to have the same subgroups/order - losing that order when you regroup tabs during continuous work - harder navigation as now I need an extra "bookmarks" UI instead of existing tab lista What would the universal gains be that would justify this? > If you don’t, don’t keep clutter around. Did you notice the word 's…

> - harder navigation as now I need an extra "bookmarks" UI instead of existing tab lista This is an HN thread about an extension that offers extra UI to save, manage your tabs. It's evident that the one-line-of-tabs UI is not enough for your use case. Bookmarks already definitely have better UX for organization, they can even be renamed, tagged, searched… natively! > Did you notice the word 'sessions' in the title?…

Bookmarks work fine for saving tabs if you open everything in one window. Starts failing miserably once you want to save a set of windows and their tabs.

Re: Sessionic: A cross-browser extension to save, manage, restore tabs and sessions

#88
post #73

I always start my day with an empty browser window, otherwise I immediately become distracted by the no longer relevant tabs of yesterday. I have opposite problems: it is impossible to make Firefox forget its session after reboot or shutting down the computer.

You mean, it's impossible unless you go to Preferences and choose to do exactly that? Settings/General, uncheck "Open previous windows and tabs".

Doesn’t work on reboot (because browser is not clearly shut down).

Re: Sessionic: A cross-browser extension to save, manage, restore tabs and sessions

#89
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Literally the same exists in Chrome, under the same feature names even (not sure who copied whom). Firefox has environment tabs, which are like profiles, but on a per-tab basis. Personally I'd like to have a combo of this and tab groups.

Well, in Safari it’s a combo. Each profile has tab groups.

In Chrome too, but that's not what I meant. What I want is tab environments (as in FF), combined with tab groups.

Re: Sessionic: A cross-browser extension to save, manage, restore tabs and sessions

#90
post #86
post #80

Unfortunately I can not find any session manager that can compete with Session Buddy: * Tab Session Manager loads ALL of the sessions when you bring up the interface, in my case causing it to consume all of the CPU for a good couple of minutes. * Tab Session Manager does not present me with currently open incognito windows and tabs. * Sessionic opens tabs in NEW normal (not-incognito) windows when you click on them.…

Session buddy for some reason ends up w/fairly high processor usage, especially if you keep the session page open. I created a local fork that stripped out tracking, slowing down updates, and automatically closing the session page and it it works much better for my needs.

Interesting, I haven't really noticed much of the resource usage (maybe because I leave the session page open in the background?), but I'll keep a close eye on it.

Tangentially: Do you know what kind of tracking it does? Like does it send all of your tabs to the mothership for instance?

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