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First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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Or a customer complaint: https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/complaint-tablet-to-ea...

What I love about the Ea-Nasir story is the tablet was found in a pile of other tablets, suggesting that Ea-Nasir saved them. Why? Who knows, maybe he found them funny.

The first meme dump.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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> Note that texts from this time didn’t use spaces, making it harder to determine word boundaries. Paging Germans

I often wonder how different personal computing and programming would be if we kept using Scriptio Continua or the particularly awkward Boustrophedon where every other line is written in the reverse direction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scriptio_continua

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boustrophedon

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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I wrote this for a different community (filled with semiliterate sophists), but this is absolutely huge and could upend huge swathes of understanding about the last two thousand years. You can avoid the longform essay below if you want. The short of it is there are several potentially common works possibly in the library that could directly prove or disprove what is found in the New Testament and the predicates of Ra…

As a short addenda and much more within reach of the project is that we have many hapax legomena (that is a word or an expression that occurs only once within a context) in classical Western languages that are likely to have meanings discerned on the basis of these new texts (not to say anything of new hapax legomena).

For example, the Iliad and Odyssey alone contain around 500 hapaxes. Even if the ground is not shaken, there will at least be some tremors in the field, regardless of whether whole works will.be able to be successfully recovered.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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So this is just the very begining? Will they be able to decypher whole docs? I guess you wouldn't have written all that otherwise! Anyway, if there's religion involved, I doubt any revelation will shake anything.

That's true of zealots, but growing the religion anywhere where literate people are will become exceptionally difficult if the myth of Jesus the Christ turns out to be, say, a cipher of the re-execution of Alexandros I, the son of Herod the Great and Mariamne I, with contemporary first-party proofs untouched by time. Sure, there'll be dinosaurs-are-just-a-test-of-faith types, but the explanation of Christianity as a…

What makes you think "myth of Jesus the Christ turns out to be, say, a cipher of the re-execution of Alexandros I, the son of Herod the Great and Mariamne I" is at all likely? I read a theory once that Jesus Christ was a reinterpretation of Julius Caesar that was adopted by Romans after the former imperial cult fell out of favor. That seems farfetched, but more likely than this - at least it provides a better explanation of why Romans cared about Christianity.

I'd love to have texts that spoke more about the origins of Christianity and Judaism, but it's far more likely that this trove will contain nothing of the sort - you could imagine a Roman aristocrat in Italy caring about this, but it doesn't seem especially likely.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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From my perspective it may be just fitting to the answer. We try to find symbols, without confidence, that the paper still contains information, and any text for trainig. With "rights" network you can achieve any possibile result. It is remember me a russian freak-scientist, which try to read words and texts on the detailed sun surface photos.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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I heard somewhere it was common practice to reuse tablets. It was easier to scrape the surface clean than to make a new tablet. You'd save any tablets you have, and might wait until you need it to scrape it clean. In Mesopotamia there was a period where it was fashionable to use a more rare softer red clay on top of the white clay. Your stylus would cut through the top layer leaving nice white letters on a red backgr…

Yes, the clay tablets were used over and over. The ones that are preserved have what was written on them when they were fired, accidentally, by being in a building that was destroyed by fire.

Yeah, and a large number of clay tablets found were training tablets. At any given time, there may have been more students working on properly learning the mechanics of writing on tablets then tablets in circulation so a surprising number of what is found is, basically homework, or apprentice practice.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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it might cost more than $700k in compute.

It certainly did. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36312385

That's the capital cost of the cluster, not of the compute cost of this operation. Significant and cool, but it over-represents the amount of compute required.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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Not sure why this is downvoted. Yes, in California half will go to taxes and the rest is enough for a downpayment on a shack. Hardly life changing.

Must be nice to be a billionaire. I'm a fairly well paid engineer and I would certainly consider a $700k gift to be life-changing.

I make good, but not FAANG, money, and $350k after-tax, all at once, would still put me most of a decade ahead, financially, and give me some much better options for dealing with a bunch of stuff. Yeah, life changing.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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> $700k is a life changing amount of money Probably ~half of that will go to taxes?

Not sure why this is downvoted. Yes, in California half will go to taxes and the rest is enough for a downpayment on a shack. Hardly life changing.

>Hardly life changing. Maybe your life is pretty good already then.
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