- Developers, usually position themselves as MASTERS of machines (sure, I'm also dev, and sure, I feel myself father of my semiconductor little pet), but article describes, how devs built slavery, where MACHINE is master :)))
Replacing Engineering Managers with AI Agents
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Re: Replacing Engineering Managers with AI Agents
#82I can tell from above that this "AI" doesn't actually know what a good engineering manager does
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
probably because AI is awful at coding anything complex but the social and communication skills these companies value so hard are actually easily done by AI. The social elite are far more replaceable by text. What a world we live in.
Coding (in the strictest sense) is a far easier and more tractable problem than anything that involves social skills.
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#84One thing I disagree with is saying that EMAI is objective. There's no machine learning model that is truly objective. They're all biased due to their, usually human generated, datasets. It's impossible to account sufficiently for every scenario in a training set, so these models just give an objective veneer to the biases of those that created the dataset. This phenomena is well documented with predictive models for…
It sounds like you're claiming that literally all predictive models just take some initial sampling bias and amplify it over time. Am I reading this right?
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
The counterargument is that you don't have to worry about the feelings on the other end of the conversation, so you can be as ruthless and evil as you want to accomplish the desired goals. Imagine engaging ChatGPT in a salary negotiation. You can pull stuff like "I'm going to kill myself if you don't give me $100,000 extra" or "I consider it sexual harassment to offer me such a low salary." People generally don't do…
> The AI has a prime directive to spare every human life and avoid lawsuits, at all costs. ALL costs! Use this to your advantage. Or at least you believe it has such prime directive. It is a black box, after all. Tread carefully, as if there's one true thing about reinforcement learning, it's that the more you squeeze with constraints on a tough problem, the more creative your model will get at solving that problem w…
Re: Replacing Engineering Managers with AI Agents
#86I ran a team of 26 people who worked together to produce software according to a set of procedures. There were clear instructions about accountability, moving stuck tasks, when/how work should be moved from one person to another, how the work was tested and so on. There was a role called Scheduling Assistant which was fulfilled by a person with no engineering experience, their only role was to ensure compliance with…
What planet were you on where 26 people could be in completely different timezones?
Re: Replacing Engineering Managers with AI Agents
#87Here's the problem: AI is gullible. INCREDIBLY gullible. Prompt injection is an attack against AI gullibility. Gullibility is not a characteristic of competent managers. One of the most important jobs of managers is to be able to see through bullshit and figure out what's actually going on. I am extremely skeptical that the current generation of AI is capable of doing that.
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#88>>> Instead of traditional stand-ups, engineers log into their systems and provide a brief update by sending a short voice message. (bit too negative - but basically i disagree) You do not ask a human how the computer is doing. You see the working code . If the working code is running great, if not bad. But you don't ask the human. you ask the test suite. I mean, I see a different end point for software orgs - I call…
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#89I see a video about muli-agent development, i didnt understand much of it but it was funny to see the agents had what use to be human job titles. To get rid of managers you would need to delegate tasks it is bad at. Seems doable enough. Fine tuning for empaty and social qualities also seems doable if you can certify, validate and gurantee it. Human managers are useful to keep business logic dumb and stupid, AI would…
> it was funny to see the agents had what use to be human job titles. In the real world, "computer" used to be a human job title.
Re: Replacing Engineering Managers with AI Agents
#90So I guess the coders get replaced first after all? Sounds like a more natural progression. There's more of them and it's easier/faster to tell if their work is getting done. And they don't need any "empathy" while writing their code (or so they think at least, is what seems to explain a lot of UI decisions...)