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Replacing Engineering Managers with AI Agents

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Re: Replacing Engineering Managers with AI Agents

#81
Title made me laugh until I cried :)))))

- Developers, usually position themselves as MASTERS of machines (sure, I'm also dev, and sure, I feel myself father of my semiconductor little pet), but article describes, how devs built slavery, where MACHINE is master :)))

Re: Replacing Engineering Managers with AI Agents

#82
>Task Allocation: Using real-time data on each engineer's strengths, past performance, learning curve, and even their preferred working hours, EMAI allocates tasks from the backlog. It uses predictive modeling to optimize for both efficiency and team satisfaction.

I can tell from above that this "AI" doesn't actually know what a good engineering manager does

Re: Replacing Engineering Managers with AI Agents

#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

probably because AI is awful at coding anything complex but the social and communication skills these companies value so hard are actually easily done by AI. The social elite are far more replaceable by text. What a world we live in.

Coding (in the strictest sense) is a far easier and more tractable problem than anything that involves social skills.

not true at all

Re: Replacing Engineering Managers with AI Agents

#84
post #17

One thing I disagree with is saying that EMAI is objective. There's no machine learning model that is truly objective. They're all biased due to their, usually human generated, datasets. It's impossible to account sufficiently for every scenario in a training set, so these models just give an objective veneer to the biases of those that created the dataset. This phenomena is well documented with predictive models for…

It sounds like you're claiming that literally all predictive models just take some initial sampling bias and amplify it over time. Am I reading this right?

Not OP, but I would say yes. And I would argue that humans behave similarly, except that we have an innate sense to question the status quo. For some of us, this trait is more prominent, whereas somebody who is more comfortable with the status quo will usually be stamped a conservative.

Re: Replacing Engineering Managers with AI Agents

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The counterargument is that you don't have to worry about the feelings on the other end of the conversation, so you can be as ruthless and evil as you want to accomplish the desired goals. Imagine engaging ChatGPT in a salary negotiation. You can pull stuff like "I'm going to kill myself if you don't give me $100,000 extra" or "I consider it sexual harassment to offer me such a low salary." People generally don't do…

> The AI has a prime directive to spare every human life and avoid lawsuits, at all costs. ALL costs! Use this to your advantage. Or at least you believe it has such prime directive. It is a black box, after all. Tread carefully, as if there's one true thing about reinforcement learning, it's that the more you squeeze with constraints on a tough problem, the more creative your model will get at solving that problem w…

If compiler warnings were complete sentences, would you worry about burning out your empathy circuits when you suppress the warning? Guys, it's some numbers being multiplied together in a way that sounds like you're talking to a person. But you're not talking to a person. You're talking to a ball rolling down a billion dimension hill.

Re: Replacing Engineering Managers with AI Agents

#86
post #35

I ran a team of 26 people who worked together to produce software according to a set of procedures. There were clear instructions about accountability, moving stuck tasks, when/how work should be moved from one person to another, how the work was tested and so on. There was a role called Scheduling Assistant which was fulfilled by a person with no engineering experience, their only role was to ensure compliance with…

What planet were you on where 26 people could be in completely different timezones?

See the world's 38 time zones:

https://flytrippers.com/number-of-time-zones-in-the-world

Re: Replacing Engineering Managers with AI Agents

#87
post #34

Here's the problem: AI is gullible. INCREDIBLY gullible. Prompt injection is an attack against AI gullibility. Gullibility is not a characteristic of competent managers. One of the most important jobs of managers is to be able to see through bullshit and figure out what's actually going on. I am extremely skeptical that the current generation of AI is capable of doing that.

It is for now, but rest assured that people will be working very hard on fixing that problem. I don’t doubt they will succeed.

Re: Replacing Engineering Managers with AI Agents

#88

>>> Instead of traditional stand-ups, engineers log into their systems and provide a brief update by sending a short voice message. (bit too negative - but basically i disagree) You do not ask a human how the computer is doing. You see the working code . If the working code is running great, if not bad. But you don't ask the human. you ask the test suite. I mean, I see a different end point for software orgs - I call…

We have a use case for some of our stuff that's not too dissimilar to part of what you're talking about here. One of our products is basically a trace-based verification tool that consumes a bunch of different kinds of telemetry from a bunch of different layers of a tech stack across a bunch of different devices and then leverages that data to do system-level testing. It turns out that it's not too hard to instrument the tools of business processes in a manner similar to how one might instrument embedded devices or REST APIs. That business process data can be written to our causal graph datastore like anything else and then be analyzed for fault-localization or used for verification just like machine telemetry from a rover, satellite, or robotaxi would be.

Re: Replacing Engineering Managers with AI Agents

#89
post #72

I see a video about muli-agent development, i didnt understand much of it but it was funny to see the agents had what use to be human job titles. To get rid of managers you would need to delegate tasks it is bad at. Seems doable enough. Fine tuning for empaty and social qualities also seems doable if you can certify, validate and gurantee it. Human managers are useful to keep business logic dumb and stupid, AI would…

> it was funny to see the agents had what use to be human job titles. In the real world, "computer" used to be a human job title.

Calculator too!

Re: Replacing Engineering Managers with AI Agents

#90
post #4

So I guess the coders get replaced first after all? Sounds like a more natural progression. There's more of them and it's easier/faster to tell if their work is getting done. And they don't need any "empathy" while writing their code (or so they think at least, is what seems to explain a lot of UI decisions...)

This is never how it goes. Coders will simply be expected to produce more with AI copilots.
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