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Re: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges

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Post by jordigh »

9991 wrote: post #64
jordigh wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying someone with a last name of Zhong won't get admitted into universities?

No, but it is 10 times harder. A black woman with Zhong's resume would have gotten in everywhere, and you know it. Anyways, it's not me that's saying it: https://studentsforfairadmissions.org/ They recently won a court case you may have heard of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_Fair_Admissions_v... But that decision is too late for this guy.

> and you know it

Black women have it so easy, and I know it? You think I know that black women have an unfair advantage and that's why universities are unfairly full of black women?

Re: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges

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Post by dongping »

pge wrote: post #31

Can anyone verify the accuracy of this statement? A random post on a message board doesn’t merit a response without a little more evidence…

At least this specific case was cited in a congressional hearing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zu5cdfv9kk&t=2587s

Re: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges

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Post by Philorandroid »

gresrun wrote: post #40
Philorandroid wrote: post #28

>Stanley Zhong graduated from high school in June 2023 I think it's safe to assume that Mr. Zhong is of an Asian background. My guess is that he is, unfortunately, lacking in "interpersonal skills".

That's a dangerous, biased assumption.

I totally agree, which is why it's disheartening that universities like Harvard use it as a metric to exclude Asians: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/15/harvard-disc...

Re: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges

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Post by jaybrendansmith »

GlenTheMachine wrote: post #33

I went to a small rural high school in the 1980s. Taught myself to code, started a business writing software, entered and won the regional science fair and placed second in the CS division of the International Science and Engineering Fair in 1987. Won a prestigious NASA internship, got glowing letters of recommendation from my NASA mentors. Took every AP class available to me (all both of them). Graduated third in my…

It's like a good fit for a job. If the school is not looking for many CompSci that year, they will pass. But if you are a history buff and the history department needs another declared major, you're all set. And your High School unfortunately really mattered then, and it matters even more now, especially with SAT scores disfavored. Also if you live in Mass vs Texas, because they likely have quotas for state residents, international, etc. And they pull first from magnate high schools and private schools, up to a third of their acceptances so I've heard. Currently it is smart to apply to more schools if your parents can afford it, as it increases the chance of a 'lucky strike'. And up at that level, much of it is luck.

Re: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges

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Post by naniwaduni »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #54
woodruffw wrote: post #22

There's some incongruity here: college admissions are by no means fair, but they also don't evaluate for nearly the same things as Google's hiring process does. Put another way: colleges aren't qualified or equipped to make the kinds of determinations that Google does when hiring engineers, and being hired as a Google engineer prior to going to college isn't any particularly strong signal that you're prepared to go t…

It is the 1590 SAT, 4.42 GPA, individual achievements, and Asian last name that make the College rejections notable, not that Google hired him.

Notable? It's just another Tuesday.

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Post by vore »

teaearlgraycold wrote: post #43
vore wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes maximizing learning and fun is having enough money to pursue your interests outside of work.

Sure. But a kid that’s building a successful business as a high school sophomore probably has software engineering as a #1 interest with no close #2. I’ve got a healthy list of hobbies and it wasn’t enough for me. Feeling the time wasted on mundane BS and thumb twiddling while at Google literally gave me nightmares. Granted, I need to and am working on healthy stress management. But that would probably just get me to…

Sure but also maybe not? It’s weird to lament someone you don’t even know.

Re: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges

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Post by MagnumOpus »

jordigh wrote: post #81
9991 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but it is 10 times harder. A black woman with Zhong's resume would have gotten in everywhere, and you know it. Anyways, it's not me that's saying it: https://studentsforfairadmissions.org/ They recently won a court case you may have heard of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_Fair_Admissions_v... But that decision is too late for this guy.

> and you know it Black women have it so easy, and I know it? You think I know that black women have an unfair advantage and that's why universities are unfairly full of black women?

No. He is saying the former.

The latter is not true, but it is the case that black women drop out at disproportionately high rates out of these programmes.

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