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I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We hire on Freelancer sites quite a bit and have noticed that about 50%-80% of applicants now very obviously use ChatGPT or equivalent to apply. Now suddenly every person magically has 8 years experience in a weird esoteric requirement that we're looking for. They are currently very easy to spot and the applications go directly into the trash, so the freelancers aren't doing themselves any favors using them. It is in…

> Now suddenly every person magically has 8 years experience in a weird esoteric requirement that we're looking for. That's crazy to me. Why would someone put ANYTHING on their resume that is not factually correct? That in the end is a disservice to yourself and to your potential employer, not to mention the pressure it puts on job seekers to push the envelope on embellishment. What I am on the fence about in my own…

> Why would someone put ANYTHING on their resume that is not factually correct?

Tragedy of the commons and negative externalities. If you're applying for a ton of jobs, then lying on your resume comes with potential upsides (you could get a job that you normally wouldn't) with very little personal downside (employers don't really have a way to share which applicants falsified resume data).

Sure, doing this raises the noise level and makes it harder for people who don't lie on their resumes (tragedy of the commons), but from an individual perspective, that's a negative externality that they don't have to care about.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Will you follow up with stats and analysis on response rate and further steps in the application/evaluation process? I'd be interested in that.

Very likely going to be zero. The only way I can get a chance at a phone screen is to spend at least an hour crafting my resume and cover letter for each position.

Maybe my side project will be accreditive to your process, apologies for the clunky UI - working on it:

https://www.kindbuds.ai/ght/spence

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

#83

Why do HR people demand the duplication of efforts including manual entry of the very same information on a resume or LinkedIn profile, two resources that many HR people request. This is abusive, lazy, and easily solvable issue. I don’t bother applying with any company that feels entitled to ware my time.

>This is abusive, lazy, and easily solvable issue

Agree with the first two but not the last point. The types of companies you're referring to are almost always large and not particularly fast moving. Swapping out their archaic applicant tracking system is often a non-starter as it's usually embedded in their HRIS and swapping out a HRIS in a large company is a monster task.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

#84

Why do HR people demand the duplication of efforts including manual entry of the very same information on a resume or LinkedIn profile, two resources that many HR people request. This is abusive, lazy, and easily solvable issue. I don’t bother applying with any company that feels entitled to ware my time.

A.I., anyone ?

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

#85

Apply to Procter & Gamble, and as part of the application itself enjoy being put through 1-2 hours of ambiguous personality/morality testing and Mensa-style math, memorization, and logic puzzles! With adaptive difficulty! It's the most surreal and absurd experience. There are actually prep courses you can pay for just to improve your odds on the P&G testing process just to get someone to actually see your resume. Be…

And then, if you're feeling lucky apply to Canonical for a 10 step recruiting fun.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

#86
post #7

Will you follow up with stats and analysis on response rate and further steps in the application/evaluation process? I'd be interested in that.

Very likely going to be zero. The only way I can get a chance at a phone screen is to spend at least an hour crafting my resume and cover letter for each position.

Can you describe in more detail what this actually means? I can't imagine what I would spend an hour doing to my resume that would somehow make it more attractive to a specific employer without outright lying.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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The tldr seems to be that it's exceptionally quick and easy to apply for jobs, perhaps too quick and too easy, there's essentially no barrier to applying to any and every job advert seen given it apparently takes less than 10 minutes in the "worst" case.

Which makes the overall experience worse for hiring managers and qualified applicants.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

#88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Running a scraping aggregator and being an end user are not the same thing.

Workday is not great for applicants either. Maybe the back-end is nice?

Workday is awful from every angle.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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post #85

Apply to Procter & Gamble, and as part of the application itself enjoy being put through 1-2 hours of ambiguous personality/morality testing and Mensa-style math, memorization, and logic puzzles! With adaptive difficulty! It's the most surreal and absurd experience. There are actually prep courses you can pay for just to improve your odds on the P&G testing process just to get someone to actually see your resume. Be…

And then, if you're feeling lucky apply to Canonical for a 10 step recruiting fun.

Canonical sent me a 30 question "written interview" which asked all sorts of personal and irrelevant questions as the first step in their interview process. I ghosted them.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very likely going to be zero. The only way I can get a chance at a phone screen is to spend at least an hour crafting my resume and cover letter for each position.

Can you describe in more detail what this actually means? I can't imagine what I would spend an hour doing to my resume that would somehow make it more attractive to a specific employer without outright lying.

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